I have studied & raised and trained so many different animals all my life and I hope my experience and knowledge will help with ailments on behalf of our GSDs at least. I'll be glad to share what I have seen with anyone about any "bloodline" "feeding" "work/exercising/training" with very little serious ailments in the 40 years I was involved. I wasn't sure if the "toxic gut" was the same as "bloat" when this thread started, but if it is the same, we also have one called "colic" in horses that is quite similar and what is needed for them is interesting as well, with somewhat of a parallel (sp.)! I also have delved into the HD and other problems thru the years with the understanding that it is very true -- all 3 --- genetics/feed/environment --- must be considered in all cases of some of the ailments our "kids" have. Norma no L ----- Original Message ----- From: <Ginialtman@xxxxxxx> To: <zrockenstein@xxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: <TISHW@xxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 2:19 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Bloat (was Toxic Gut) Hi Zoe I am participating in a 20 member all breed group that is looking at bloat. I would be interested in whatever else you have because the best that I know is that Dr Pletcher is not doing any research in bloat at this time and did not do the project you talked about in your email. If you have information to the contrary it would be of considerable interest to our group. would you send any additional information to _ginialtman@xxxxxxxx (mailto:ginialtman@xxxxxxx) Thanks heaps Ginny AltmanA Health and Genetics Chair ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================