In a message dated 5/22/2005 4:36:04 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, Bokenkampgsd1 writes: My interpretation of Pauls post is simply on the day of judging, that the dog sitting back in 10th spot does not end up in the number 1 position or is running with the top 1-5 for the ultimate point. 1982. I was in 14th place. I asked the handler behind me if we were going to go Select. That was Dave Rinke. He looked at the 13 in front of us, and said he thought so. The judge took us around again, told me to go in second, and Dave in third. I ended up number two Select, and the next year the third bitch went Grand Victrix, it was Laeren. Or it might have been two years later, I don't remember. Yes, the 13th bitch was in contention for number one. Evan _Asgard German Shepherds_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================