[ SHOWGSD-L ] Bi Colors / Typical GSDs are white?

  • From: "Carolyn Martello" <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <tanbarkgsd@xxxxxxxxx>, <proudk9@xxxxxxxxx>, "'Show GSD List'" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 09:05:07 -0700

For quite some time AKC did not have bi colors as a color on the AKC.
Reg.  You could NOT get your dog AKC Registered as a bi-color...
Our U.S. AOE Grand Victor Mar Haven's Color Guard..a DEFINITE BI-COLOR 
was AKC Registered as a black and tan.  AKC would not allow us to reg. 
him as a bi-color.
I imagine that is one reason whites came in as # 4 in colors.....as there 
has always had LOTS of bi-colors..but they were Reg. as black and tans.

Carolyn  marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.marhaven.com


-----Original Message-----
On Behalf Of Chris S. Kimerer

I don't think the GSDCA had anything to do with that.  AKC does the color
choices, the standard has always labeled blues and livers as serious faults
and white as a DQ (since the last revision in the 60's) I'm sure I will be
corrected if that is not right, but none the less, I do not think the GSDCA
has a say so over what is put on the AKC registration slip.
 
More and more color patterns have been added to that over the years, but so
far no piebald/panda marking (thank goodness).
 
I think Vicki sums it up very well, and just because a certain color is
registered does not make it a correct color, no matter what the statistics
say.
 
Chris 
 
Chris S. Kimerer
Tanbark-Hillside Kennels, http://www.tanbarkgsd.com/ 
"where good bloodlines never die" 


On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 8:42 PM, Jen Proud <proudk9@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
  
Vicki wrote:
>"Many, many AKC breeds have standards that excludes certain colors and
markings as they are not typical for the breed."
>Just a clarification- using akc's most recent available registration
statistics, for many years WHITE was the #4 color registered- behind
black/tan, black/red, and sable only. It did slip to #5, going behind blacks
for the 2003-2005 years, but yet still ahead of all the other
colors/patterns available. With a minimum of 2500 registered (and that was
behind blacks at just below 2600) in white, I don't think qualifies as being
an atypical color for the GSD breed. 
>Just an observation there. 
>Just think: had the GSDCA not been after the dollar way back when all the
"off-colors" would have been thrown out of the breed altogether rather than
being eligible as any otherwise than the dollar; unwanted in the breed
anymore. This whole white situation would have been avoided had the
Americans followed the Germans lead back then. But then we've always bucked
at the idea as Americans of following a Kraut (meant facetiously) anyhow. 
>I have often wondered why that never happened like that...? 
>
>Jen P & the Pack forever curious
>
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