Lance free lines??? There are 5 lines I think are problems that I could name right now. Are all of them failures or detrimental to the breed? Progeny is the key here folks...the progeny. Are they correct? Do they produce correct? It is no secret we have stayed away from certain lines when it comes to breeding. Our dogs have done as the statement on our web site says so eloquently..."Let your dogs do your talking for you!" Be careful what you wish for "Listers"...if you breed to certain lines you will surely get it...Lance free or not. Check the progeny and their progeny... Paul Visit Rivendell on 'da web' at www.rivendellgsd.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================