Can I just say how much I loved your post Kathaleen? I loved this post. Cindy <---- who has won with bad handlers under good judges. cinosamgsd.com Kathaleen Strong <inflight2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Helen Franklin Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 3:58 PM To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Bad Handlers - Bad Results A bad handler can ruin a dog. Taking a dog too fast, not noticing when the dog is pacing, leaving too much space between dogs, handling on the wrong side between the judge and the dog, not grooming or seeing dog is groomed, wrong collar and leash, putting collar to high and raising the dog up in the front, not stacking the dog well, trying to cover up missing teeth, bringing the judge what he/she doesn't like, getting angry or snippy with judge, not paying attention to what's happening in the ring, wearing clothes that interfer with outline of dog, (black dog, black pants & shirt), calling judge on phone BEFORE assignment, and so on......... Helen Unfortunately, a bad handler should be the least of the worries of an exhibitor, IF the judge is actually judging dogs. As the judge they can strongly request that the dog is exhibited the way they want to see them. If the bad handler can't figure that out, and the judge knows a fiddlers fig about a good dog or a bad dog, they will tell the handler loud enough for the other exhibitors to hear, that they want to see the dog they want to see it for a REASON. Nothing is worse than a bad judge -- egomaniacs who get hold of the microphone and make stupid comments, those who snippy with the exhibitors, disregarding good dogs without first gaiting them enough to determine their actual quality, forgetting to examine teeth, testicles, etc., calling the handlers on the phone before the show, not paying close enough attention to the dogs only in the ring instead of who's dog is it is on the end of the lead or who normally is on the end of the lead, hugging and thumping on dogs they have no business getting that personal with, giving critiques that mean nothing -- like a 2 line critique that doesn't say a word about the dog's good and bad points but elaborates on the dog's relatives, putting up dogs who display on more than one occasion unsoundness, especially in seasoned older dogs who should know better by the time they are 4 or 5, not controlling their ring and letting the dogs go too fast and not demanding a loose lead, and so on. When a bad handler repeatedly does a bad job, the smart exhibitor will get a different handler. Unfortunately when a bad judge does a bad job, the winners will tout how great the judge is, the losers will be labeled "sour grapes" and the ones who can't figure out why they just blew several thousand dollars can only console themselves with tears, beers or jeers. Kathaleen ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ Cindy www.cinosamgsd.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================