As an active exhibitor in the Bred-by class, I have been reading the current thread about how easily dogs from the BBE class are overlooked. All I can say (as the holder of 2 of the treasured golden AKC medallions - CH TerraNorte - Windwalker's Movado and CH TerraNorte's Affair O'The Heart) is that showing in this class is not for the meek or the inconsistent. Finishing a dog from the bred-by class is tough. You have to be prepared for it to take months of consistent showing to finish a good dog. Why - 2 reasons. First, I think that judges are drawn to the entries in the AmBred and Open classes that have more competition. Surely (read in sarcasm) if a dog is thought to be the best dog in a class of 10 dogs - that dog is better than the one who won the bred-by defeating 1 or 2 dogs. Second, in most cases the handler in the BBE class is you or I - the weekend warrior that steps in the ring maybe 1 weekend a month during the heat of the season. The handlers that are showing the dogs in the Ambred and Open classes are the pros that are in the ring several times a day each and every weekend showing dogs. They will be better at presenting their client's dogs because they have to be - they work at it. That said - the average owner/handler can finish a dog from the bred-by class, but you have to be thick skinned, and every bit the mercenary that the professionals project. You will almost always be behind 2 dogs with polish and drive that are looking for their owners outside the ring - that the judge looks at first. It can be done and is everyday. ~ Val Manning Rancho Terra Norte' Wellington, CO ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================