I see it as those who go Select are of top quality, not the same as number one. I quote from your post Evan about the differences between Grand Victor/Victrix and Select, and again I agree. It's like when they crown Miss America........she is the "Grand Victrix".......the other's remain the "Selects"......Miss New York, Miss California, Miss Utah, Miss Colorado. You and I watching may have our favorites for this title, but here again it's left up to the judge/judges to make their decision. Barbara Galasso ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================