I have been told that the ARBA is no longer having the Shiloh at their shows, only the King Shepherd. Not much difference; both are still off-shoots of the GSD that cannot successfully compete in AKC, so they call it another breed. In Shilohs under 28" in males, 26"in bitches is DQ. In Kings under 27" males, 25" bitches. This, however is only at three years of age. Thus we see many of both breeds the same size and the same coat type as GSDs. In fact, the standards of both breeds (Shiloh more so ) are taken directly from the GSD's standards. Both breeds are simply GSDs that lack the qualities to be shown as GSDs. Carolyn ELG440@xxxxxxx wrote: I will be judging the ARBA shows on the 12, next Saturday. In Clarmont if anyone wants to come watch, they are fun. We are doing four shows in one day. What a hoot. I may go ahead and get AKC licensed for some of these breeds, as they are now AKC accepted. Companion _COTON DE TULEAR BOLOGNESE DANISH SWEDISH FARMDOG _ (http://www.arba.org/CotonDeTulear1BS.htm) Herding _MINIATURE AUSTRALIAN SHEPHERD_ (http://www.arba.org/MiniAussie1BS.htm) _PUMI SHILOH SHEPHERD _ (http://www.arba.org/ShilohShepherd1BS.htm) Spitz _Alaskan klee-kai_ (http://www.arba.org/AlaskanKleeKaiBS.htm) _SWEDISH LAPPHUND xoloitzcuintli _ (http://www.arba.org/SwedishLapphundBS.htm) Sporting _IRISH RED & WHITE SETTER BRACCO ITALIANO _ (http://www.arba.org/IrishRedWhiteBS.htm) Terrier AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER *BIEWER _PATTERDALE TERRIER _ (http://www.arba.org/PatterdaleTerrier1BS.htm) Working _American Bulldog_ (http://www.arba.org/AmericanBulldogBS.htm) _Argentine Dogo_ (http://www.arba.org/ArgentineDogoBS.htm) _Cane Corso_ (http://www.arba.org/CaneCorsoBS.htm) _Dogue De Bordeaux_ (http://www.arba.org/DoguedeBordeauxBS.htm) _DOGO CANARIO_ (http://www.arba.org/DogoCanarioBS.htm) _LEONBERGER TIBETAN MASTIFF _ (http://www.arba.org/TibetanMastiffBS.htm) Evan Ginsburg Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================