Listers, Promoting a dog means mentioning the dog by name, telling people how great he/she is, how well he is producing, how many breedings he is getting, how such and such dog would go well with X lines, etc. etc. Promoting a handler means mentioning the handler by name, telling people how great he/she is, how well they have done with your dogs or others, how well they condition, maintain, etc. Promoting a product or service means mentioning the product or service by name in which you have an interest, telling people how well it works, how beautiful it is, etc. "Having an interest" includes such posts by friends, clients, family members. This is against the rules of Showgsd-l. Such posting is equally against the rules, and is applicable to dogs whether the dogs in question are American, Canadian or German. We do specifically allow brags and litter announcements by the owners, breeders, co-owners, sire owners, etc., so long as they are factual and not filled with self-promotion, but that is different than what we are seeing recently on the List. It is difficult to tell if people who are doing this don't realize that posts of that sort are considered promotional, or if they know and don't care. We generally try to warn List members they are breaking the rules before restricting their posting privileges. Recently there have been so many of these that it has become difficult to impossible to contact everyone privately, and, since the rest of the List doesn't realize those posts violate the rules, they lead to more and more of the same. So, this is a general warning to all List members. Promotion and advertising are against our rules. We have been swamped with complaints by List members regarding these. Any further promotion of dogs, handlers, products, services or other commercial interests may result in administrative action without further warning. If someone asks you a question about your dog, your handling, your product, it is an easy matter to reply privately, and it is what is expected on the List. If you are unsure whether a particular post would violate the rules, we will be happy to look at it in advance and to let you know whether it violates the rules or not. The Showgsd-l Administration admin@xxxxxxxxxxx ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================