I have been reading this thread with interest. I show in both venues. I admit I feel more comfortable in the AB ring. Even if I don't have the support of the GSD community, I do have friends and supporters from other breeds. That doesn't mean one venue is any easier than the other, at least in SoCal. There are a couple AB handlers here that seem to win everything. Not all the time but enough to make it discouraging. Some AB judges do tend to trust certain handlers and not trust their instincts in finding a good, balanced dogs. However, there are also some very good AB judges out there that want the total package and don't care who is on the end of the lead. That makes me more inclined to enter under these judges. Do your homework! Specialties do tend to favor cliques or known people in the breed. It is very discouraging for newbies. I rarely show in specialties and can't afford the astronimical fees of hiring a handler. I know I need to have a handler and will to show that I do have a dog worthy of being shown in specialties. But, I have to select my shows. I am on a fixed income. I cannot enter every show and I cannot travel. I have to save for a handler. The sad part is that I love to show my own dogs. I know I cannot compete with the elite so I need to hire a handler. Maybe if more people could win with showing their own dogs at specialties, they might consider it fun and worth it. That brings up another issue. We want movement and correct side gait. WHAT IS THAT? Is it the beautiful suspension and floating movement we see in our back yard, or is it the racing maniacs? Specialties nowadays are all about manic racers and not about the pace that a GSD can do all day to tend their flock or work as a service dog 24/7. Sure, a dog can run like the wind for his/her classes. But, can he sustain a real job? How can this breed be considered versatile when all they do is race like a Greyhound and get rewarded for it? I don't get it Just some thoughts. Laura. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================