[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: A New AKC survey- LONG
- From: Lyn Chernak <cherlyngsd@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: marhaven@xxxxxxx, hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, LEWIEB@xxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 11:04:49 -0800 (PST)
Hello Everyone,
A while back someone posted to this list concerning this very issue. She
stated that she was an AKC delegate (I found our correspondence which I saved).
We took our replies privately. Below is the introduction she gave to the list
and her position on the subject. I will not relinquish the author, she can take
ownership of this if she wants to. I had made several positive suggestions to
her as to how to handle mix breeds in the sport however none seemed acceptable.
I am against mixed breeds at the "Show" level which could earn them an AKC
title. Since AKC's conception, they maintained that it was the "Sport of Pure
bred dogs". In the future, what is AKC's plan to help the Breeders of Pure Bred
dogs when sales decrease because of their "need to generate income".
There was a time not long ago when clubs approached the AKC to take a stand
on "Vicious Dog" laws that were coming up ... AKC took a stand and said that
they were only a dog registry for prue bred dogs. I guess over the years times
have changed.
Hi All;
As an AKC Delegate, this was one of the questions on the Strategic Planning
Surveys and many felt that this was a great idea to
increase revenues and get people with mixed breeds to shows and perhaps to lure
them into purebreds and the confirmation
ring.
I for one, along with the members of my AB Club are in favor of this. AKC needs
to generate income and needs to help educate
the public in dog care, health etc.
My response was........
I can understand your financial concern and your hopes to educate people to the
world of purebred dogs, however I do not share your enthusiasm for allowing
mixed breeds to compete with purebred dogs on those merits.
As I understand it, currently there are mixed breed associations that an
owner can join. These Associations encourage the mixed breed owners to take
their dogs to classes and compete at matches. There are forms that the owner of
a mixed breed can bring with them to have a judge at a match sign which
indicates the dog has passed the required class and has earned a "leg" towards
a title. Earning titles works in a similar manner to the AKC title
requirements. Unfortunately, I believe this is only allowed at the "Fun"
matches which are not AKC sanctioned.
I have no objection to allowing mixed breeds at an AKC sanctioned match and
also allowing them to compete to earn their legs, however there would not be a
financial gain for the AKC if the entry fee were at the match price. Possibly
the AKC could require a more formal entry from the mixed breed that was
entering for a leg.
A further concern of mine, as a long time exhibitor of obedience and
performance events, is the "Limited Entry" rules, by allowing mixed breeds to
compete at this level would cause purebreds to be knocked out of an entry
unless further rules were installed.
I do not support Mixed Breeds in AKC Performance Events at the show level. I
have nothing against mixed breeds and I, like everyone else, has owned a mixed
breed or two.
I feel that there are many other ways that the AKC can increase revenues and
educate the public without having mix breeds compete in AKC performance events
at a show.
Since I don't like to be negative without giving position suggestions ....
Here's a positive suggestion that all can benefit by....
Allow a mixed breed to earn their legs and titles at the match level. The AKC
can collect an entry fee of $35, of which $8 to $10 goes to the sponsoring club
as the match fee and the balance goes to the AKC for the recording and
paperwork for the entry.But to keep this fair, the AKC can collect the fee and
then send the club their money. Since a sanctioned match must be approved prior
to holding the match, the AKC can send out a list of such events or have a
Mixed Breed Superintendent for the match.
That was the begining of our correspondence, however it ended with a no win.
JMHO
Lyn Chernak
Carolyn <marhaven@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Follow the money trail.......................
Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxx
www.marhaven.com
----- Original Message -----
From: hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: LEWIEB@xxxxxxx ; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 4:06 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: A New AKC survey
The AKC leadership( if we must call it that) has lost it. First credit
cards, then Hunte..and now this? what about the integrity of the sport of
purebred dogs? they need a new marketing strategy..desperation is never a
good marketing tool. . Here is a novel idea for the AKC to consider..how
about starting some quality control..how about trying to preserve the
integrity of this sport.Most lay people do believe the AKC represents
quality..sort of like the "good housekeeping seal of approval"..well how
about the AKC adopting more of a "seal of approval" status. the AKC needs
to distance itself from the dregs of the dog breeding world and focus on
those who are breeding quality. If their name becomes synonymous with
quality people will want an AKC registered dog.Instead of enlisting the
help of the biggest wholesaler in the US, they need to distance themselves
for that type of negative PR..Inside this years premium list for the
National was the AKC Code of Ethics..what a joke.Here they want to register
mixed breeds for performance..link up with the Hunte Corp and they have the
nerve to want their "code of Ethics" in a premium list!. Every time you get
the Gazette there is some "new" breed..which translates into more
money.Used to be it took forever to get a breed recognized..those were in
the days when the AKC was run by people who used to be good knowledgeable
dog breeders, who knew what it was like to be in the trenches..who
understood the art of breeding great dogs. Now the AKC is run by
"corporate" leeches..concerned about making their own pockets fat. If the
AKC is concerned they are losing money.(.ironic a non-profit org concerned
about the bottom line)..they need to get rid of the "pork"..they have to
many in the higher ranks, with hefty incomes, making poor choices.On the
other hand, the AKC keeps making it increasing difficult for knowledgeable
people to get their judges licenses, finding one loop hole after another to
refuse someone what they are qualified to do,.yet now they want to bend
over back wards to cater to people with mutts? The AKC should maintain its
status as a registry..a registry for purebred dogs and keeps its
credibility while the public still equates it with quality...once they lose
that public perception they will be in dire straits. Participation in AKC
events, should be limited to purebred dogs..there are already provisions
for an ILP numbers..that should be enough. Christine
hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Steve and Christine Grainger
WWW.HICKORYHILLGSD.COM
> [Original Message]
> From:
> To:
> Date: 2/22/2007 2:36:48 PM
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] A New AKC survey
>
> This is for real...what do you think?
>
> Lew
>
>
>
> Dear Club Officer:
> President Dennis Sprung announced at the December Delegates meeting that
AKC
> would seek the input of the Fancy on the subject of possibly expanding
mixed
> breed dog participation in AKC programs. Specifically, Staff is
researching
> a listing service for spayed and neutered mixed breed dogs. In addition,
we
> are exploring the possibility of enrollees in this service being
eligible to
> compete in AKC Companion Events (agility, obedience, rally, tracking).
> We want to give the Fancy ample opportunity to give feedback before
> proceeding with forming any program proposals. We request that you
respond to the
> Mixed Breed Dog Participation Survey so we can receive your opinions on
the
> subject. Staff also has prepared an informational packet that contains
background
> and facts regarding mixed breed dogs and AKCâ?Ts interest in mixed breed
dogs.
> This material may be useful to you as background information in thinking
> about your answers to the survey.
> You may access both the survey and the information packet through
website
> _www.akc.org/mixedbreed_survey_ (http://www.akc.org/mixedbreed_survey) .
We ask
> that you complete the survey by March 31, 2007. The survey also is being
> sent to Delegates. In addition, you are welcome to forward the survey to
your
> club members so they can offer their opinions.
> Your input is extremely important to us, and we look forward to
receiving
> your feedback.
> Sincerely,
> James P. Crowley
> AKC Executive Secretary
>
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