I agree with this..I seem to remember that not everyone agreed with Bull's going GV..but I don't remember anyone saying it was inappropriate for the List...I was on the List at the time..and I certainly didn't indicate I felt it was not fodder for discussion. It would seem to reason the judge was very smitten with the winners dog...and she loved his style...you have to admire a judge who can find a dog that is line bred on her own stud dog..this clearly means this must be what she likes and likes what she has bred..I think the solid black bitch was also of similar breeding! I think I remember a post about a month ago or so where the judge stated on the List that she loved this dog and that it was line bred on her dog..and had given him a Best Puppy at a show last Fall...I for one was not surprised that she found him worthy in her eyes of this win! Christine Grainger > [Original Message] > From: <caggra@xxxxxxx> > To: <Trahanone@xxxxxxx>; <izakabuska@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 11/7/2005 2:42:06 PM > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: 2005 National > > I did not think of Scott's post as knocking any of the winners at all. I spoke to a lot of people that would have put the Winner's dog up and a lot that would have put the reserve dog up. That is why we go to dog shows to get opinions...opinions are opinions because not everyones are the same. Otherwise, how boring would it be to go to a National. > I believe opinions and observations like Scott's are absolutely appropriate for the List and anywhere else. We should not get insulted if someone observes that they thought other dogs were deserving as well. That is how we all learn and grow! > > Jeff > > -----Original Message----- > From: Trahanone@xxxxxxx > To: izakabuska@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 15:23:03 EST > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: 2005 National > > I was not knocking anyone so please do not start something that was not > intended!!!! I was simply stating my opion of the show site and a few dogs I > think > are super animals. > We can agree to disagree.....the winners dog was a very nice animal but if I > was pointing I would have went with the reserve dog. It is ok to have a > different opion. > > Now please do not start something that was not intended to be an insult to > anyone. In my opion at this show, I believe the reserve winners dog would have > been one of the top five animals at the show......thats my point. > > Scott trahan > > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2005. 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