[selnwktvrcc] Re: Fwd: Ultra Low Emission update

  • From: Guy Lashmar <glashmar@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "selnwktvrcc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <selnwktvrcc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2022 10:09:00 +0000

The change link I shared had 90,000 signatures. Might be better focusing on 
that one as the appears to have gained some traction.

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On 27 Nov 2022, at 09:15, Graham Brooks <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

 There are several petition platforms. The U.K. Government platform one has 
two hurdle points. 10K signatures for a response and 100K signatures to table a 
debate. The U.K. Gov ones have to be quite targeted in what is being asked as 
there has to be an outcome within Parliaments control. As far as I can see 
there is one on ULEZ and it’s not that popular. 
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/618266

Regards

Graham


On 26 Nov 2022, at 22:32, Bob grieves <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

 Peter, it’s change.org the website for government petitions.

This this is the one.

Bob


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On Saturday, November 26, 2022, 9:19 pm, Peter Reeve 
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Is there not a government website if there is enough signatures that it has to 
be debated I may be wrong

Good luck

On 26 Nov 2022 11:32, keith Moore <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

After putting ULEZ extension to all London out for consultation and ignoring 
the public response (40% for 60%) against no on should trust Mr Kahn.

His main justification for the expansion is to reduce the number of deaths 
caused by our cars but if we pay him £12.50 that's all right. Carry on killing 
people.

It is all about money! When he has spent £280,000,000 of our money on his 
campaign to make London motorists lives more difficult what will he do with all 
those cameras when the offending cars have gone? Drivers of compliant cars will 
be his next target.

I believe ULEZ is a smoke screen for his real objective of Road Pricing where 
every motorist will be charged to drive within the M25.

So if we replace our older cars with newer cars it won't be long before we have 
to pay to use them as well.


Just a thought.


Keith

On 26 November 2022 at 10:36 Peter Berry <peter.christine8@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


Completely agree with the last comment from Robert. The biggest part of the 
carbon footprint produced by a single car (any car) is its manufacture in the 
first place - by a considerable margin. It makes no sense to actively encourage 
the purchase of new cars and penalise those who run older cars, including 
classics. We’re the ones looking after the planet, not the other way around!

What can we do as a small but collective group with, I’m pretty sure, a 
unanimous view on this ridiculous legislation? Many small voices may make a 
difference.

Regards,
Peter
(Or Grumpy of Bromley 🤬)

On 26 Nov 2022, at 09:58, Robert Goddard <rjgoddard@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

Saw a post last night from the Sevenoaks MP who said they will be taking any 
action they can to get the decision reversed.

It's an utter joke.  How you can justify everyone having to buy new cars (I 
know some will buy used but somewhere in that purchase chain someone is likely 
to be buying new) thereby adding to the carbon footprint of producing new cars. 
 Each new car is equivalent to driving a classic for 46 years according to a 
survey by Footman James.

Let's hope it gets reversed at some point.

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From: selnwktvrcc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <selnwktvrcc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on 
behalf of Graham Brooks <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 7:11:58 AM
To: selnwktvrcc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <selnwktvrcc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [selnwktvrcc] Re: Fwd: Ultra Low Emission update

Totally agree Tim. Plus, a similar amount to implement, see link below. Then 
there will be mission creep with the new camera network for more authoritarian 
actions in the name of the environment

Politicians need to be reminded that they work for the people, not the other 
way around. This sort of thing can be stopped when enough people just say no.

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Regards

Graham


On 25 Nov 2022, at 20:20, Tim Cramer-Todd <tcramertodd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

And to make it worse he's funding a other scrappage scheme to the tune of £110m 
so more future classics will be no more. Our (classics) carbon footprint is 
microscopic.


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behalf of Guy Lashmar <glashmar@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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To: selnwktvrcc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <selnwktvrcc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [selnwktvrcc] Re: Fwd: Ultra Low Emission update

Time for constantly muddy number plates..

Sent from my iPhone

On 25 Nov 2022, at 17:49, dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

Hi all.

Well this is bad news isn’t it?

If you haven’t heard our wonderful Mayor has decided to go ahead with the 
proposed ULEZ extension in August of next year!

Goes without saying (but I’m going to anyway) this is bad news for any of us 
living within the M25. But it also concerns me it could have a detrimental 
effect on house prices too, thanks Mr Mayor.

I have two cars that are non compliant so like many of you there could be some 
difficult decisions to make over the coming months.

Hopefully the government will step in & overrule the decision, call him a twunt 
& throw him into jail….but somehow I doubt it!

Think I might have a little drink tonight.

It’s a sad day, particularly as 80% of working people who replied to the 
consultation document objected to the idea!

Take care all.

Nick

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Good afternoon

Thank you for responding to our consultation that took place earlier this year. 
I am now contactng you to let you know that the Mayor of London has decided to 
expand the ULEZ to outer London so that it will apply London-wide from 29 
August 2023.

This followed a public consultation that took place between 20 May and 29 July 
2022. The Mayor’s decision was informed by the consultation responses that we 
received and other relevant information such as the Integrated Impact 
Assessment which considered the possible impacts of the proposed expansion. The 
consultation reports which summarise the issues raised in the consultation and 
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To help London’s disabled drivers and community transport minibuses run by not- 
for-profit organisations, the existing exemption periods for these vehicles 
will extend to October 2027 and October 2025 respectively. There will also be 
new exemption periods for disabled drivers and wheelchair accessible and 
adapted vehicles. These will apply from the end of January 2023 until October 
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Additionally, to maximise the potential benefits of expanding the ULEZ and 
strengthen alternatives to private cars, the Mayor today announced a plan for 
improving the bus network in outer London. Two new routes will be introduced in 
Sutton and in east London, new zero-emission cross-river services will be 
introduced, subject to consultation, as part of the opening of the Silvertown 
Tunnel in 2025.

In addition to ULEZ expansion, we also consulted on changing the way Auto Pay 
works, increasing the level of the penalty charge for non-payment of the ULEZ 
and the Congestion Charge, and asked for your views on the possible future of 
road user charging, as well as a revision to the Mayor’s Transport Strategy.

The Mayor has also decided to:

  *   Remove the annual £10 per vehicle Auto Pay registration fee to make it 
easier for people with non-compliant vehicles to pay the charge and avoid 
unnecessary penalty charges
  *   Increase the penalty charge notice for non-payment of the ULEZ and 
Congestion Charges from £160 to £180 (or £90 if paid within 14 days) to ensure 
it remains an effective deterrent

The consultation also asked a number of questions about how people felt a 
future road user charging scheme might work by the end of the decade. The full 
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The MTS Revision and its post adoption statement, as well as the Integrated 
Impact Assessment of the proposed revision and the Habitats Regulation 
Assessment, may be inspected during office hours at TfL’s main office: 
Palestra, 197 Blackfriars Road, London SE1 8NJ; and at City Hall, Kamal 
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