It sounds like Thad is voting yes and Jenn is voting no. Looking at the Poison Control Center website link she supplied, first aid para #5, a quality snake bite kit seems to be a good idea. Here is a repost of my original message to All-Observing for those who aren't subscribed: "If I can remind us of the last time this topic came up, in order: 1. Drop everything and get medical help immediately. 2. Try to keep subject as calm as possible to prevent the venom pumping thru the system. 3. No cutting of the wound with knives or razors, no tourniquets, don't use your mouth. Use suction bulb from quality kit (Sawyer or equiv), cheap ones are worthless." Jack Jones Public Events Coordinator Saguaro Astronomy Club Phoenix AZ Telescoper@xxxxxxx www.saguaroastro.org http://www.pharmacy.arizona.edu/centers/apdic/snakes.shtml Hi, this is a link off of the Poison Control Center's website. You = might want to read under Rattlesnake/First Aid before you settle into = buying a kit. I suppose if it makes you feel better to tote it around = in the first aid kit--then go for it. Just don't waste valuable time = using it instead of getting the victim to a source of anti-venom. Jenn. =20 -----Original Message----- From: sac-board-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:sac-board-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of rtejera@xxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 10:53 AM To: sac-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [sac-board] Re: Club First Aid Kit Addition So I take it you & Jenn are two board votes for ex-Jefe to buy the =3D snakebite kit? One more? Rick -----Original Message----- From: Thad Robosson [mailto:starstarcracker@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 10:49 AM To: sac-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [sac-board] Re: Club First Aid Kit Addition > I haven't read JD's post but maybe as a small bit of reassurance, I = =3D =3D3D > understand his snake confrontation happened near to his house. =3D3D > Households attract varmits, and varmits attract snakes. I think the = =3D =3D3D > likelihood of seeing a snake at a house in a fairly remote area like = =3D his =3D3D > is more likely than seeing one at a place like Cherry Road for =3D example. =3D3D > But it's always necessary to be aware at any rate. That's not what the rattlers in the Phx mountain preserve think! I've = =3D been=3D20 rattled at a few times hiking along the trails. Being prepared is not a bad idea.... Thad