[rollei_list] Re: looks like it is the end for Agfa
- From: Mark Rabiner <mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 23:55:09 -0700
> A few years back, Costco's Kirkland brand of film
> was made by Agfa, and it was brilliant. It was my
> standard 200 ISO film. They dropped that film and
> I went to Kodak Ultracolor 400.
>
> Don't expect me to shed a tear on their demise.
>
> Jerry
>
Agfa color film is in a class of its on from all I know of German products
most of which are beyond reproach and at the top of their class.
If you get bored and get a roll of Agfa color film for a whole new different
kind of look and like it the next time you get it two weeks later the stuff
will not even resemble the stuff you'd shot last time. Their quality control
seems to be non existent. That's the color.
The black and white which I'm mainly into anyway is not so bad. But not
good.
The developing times for their 100 and 400 films require a Jobo or an
attention span a lot longer them mine. Twice other films at least. Much more
than the times they even recommend. I guess they figure if they put 20
minutes on the little sheets people would bring the stuff back without even
shooting it and they'd be right. But people are equally non enthused when
they run their first batch and they can barely get a decent image on Brovira
6 with it. Assuming this was 20 years ago when they still made the stuff.
The 100 film has a unique look to it I think its because its so straight
line. But the tab grain Fuji ACROS 100 replaces that for me.
Speaking of tab grain they never got their act together in the black and
white department on that in any speed. That's falling behind. One needs a
tab grain option. Both Fuji and Kodak give you tab and non tab (comma?)
options.
The 25 I sure would go with over tech pan. But Panatomic X I always did
better with despite very slightly less fine grain.
Pan F was a full notch behind.
But now you can get that Hungarian slow ASA 25 stuff or wherever.
I'm finding 100 speed (medium speed) tab grain films to be my high rez mode
now in lieu of the old slow stuff now. In Xtol 1:3. But soon in Beutlers I
think.
So I did not miss the phasing out of the 25.
I'd emailed them a year before making them promise me that its demise was
only a rumor and they emailed me back and confirmed it WAS a rumor.
But it was not as if I went and shot a bunch of the stuff the following
year.
As far as stuff made in Germany goes as far as I go Agfa film has always
been a near embarrassment.
They should have stuck with composing classical music!
Mark Rabiner
Photography
Portland Oregon
http://rabinergroup.com/
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