I have piles and piles of work fone with an old uncoated Leitz Elmar.... a tessar type, and it is, if anything, sharper than the Biotars, the Primoplans, and, sadly, some of the Xenons. I measure a lens by whether it "takes off" for me, does good work in my hand, and sometimes a bit of flare (Biotar) bakes a great portrait. BTW, I have a # of Biotars in different mount (I have Contax D's, among other things, ) and they are spectacularly different from each other. My favorite old glass, per "what it can do for me"? The old uncoated collapsible f2 Sonnar for Contax II. a third of my show-gallery stuff is off that combination. and the coated f1.5 sonnar? As good as my Nikons. Customers think so too. Ruddy, here in Columbia there is a j-school, and the kiddies are full of attitude, to the degree it severely restricts their ability to do a good job with their cameras. I use the old stuff, and take fiendish delight in getting in their beardless faces with it -- and whipping their butts. Like I say in STREET PHOTOG, its how you play it. An old one pointed in the right direction at the right time beats the tar out of the latest digital scheisskamera -- that isn't. best to all PJ Nebergall On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 19:03:54 -0400 Eric Goldstein <egoldste@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > Ruddy Roye wrote: > > > Why do I hear so many photogs run away from tessar lens > > > Umm, ignorance? Stupidity? The desire to have large pieces of glass > to > compensate for their small... brains? ;-) > > I really can't say I've run into all that much prejudice against > Tessars. The large format f/9 Nikkors are Tessar-types and they have > a > killer rep. In terms of pix, just about everything shot on Speed > Graphics over the years have been shot with Tessar-type lenses. > > Generally, modern photographers look for lens speed more than > anything > else, and that may have a great deal to do with such an ill-informed > > prejudice. At f/8, you would be hard pressed to see the difference > between a good MF Tessar and just about any other MF lens... > > > > Eric Goldstein > --- > Rollei List > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' > in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into > www.freelists.org > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > > --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list