On Oct 30, 2011, at 6:11 PM, william schillereff wrote: > I have toed that same difference between the Jet Prints and the enlarger > prints. My explanation is enlarger images are actually an etch of silver > from negative to print. A while ago Rangefinder Mag has a stark black and > white prints of a man of color. It was perfect in tone, brilliant a great > digital print. Yet there was that tonal grain on finds in a darkroom > print and it was that which was missing. Maybe it is a missing part of > the print or maybe a divergence in the two art mediums or just call it > personal preference. We who are old tend to hold on to the past but again > the past has much worth holding to. > > A parting shot. Does anyone know where to get a red colored bulb where it > is actually red glass and not painted. They used to be called Ruby Bulbs > but any red glass will work. I do not have mind at present and it is my > all time favorite darkroom bulb. > > Bill > > On 10/29/11 1:57 PM, "Bob James" <starboy0@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> So I have now sent 7 rolls through the Rollei TLR. 6 rolls of black and >> white and 1 of Velvia 50. >> >> I have a number of full frame prints from those rolls on 11x14 fiber >> paper. I have noticed something quite different between the black and >> white prints and the color prints. I'm wondering why? And if it's just >> an incorrect perception. >> >> The color prints made from the slides are technically perfect: colors >> spot on with that Velvia saturation and the resolution perfect. But I >> think these were printed with ink and to me there is a flat look to them. >> >> The black and whites were printed with an enlarger and have a luminous >> quality that the color prints don't. I'm wondering what is causing that >> perception? Something real or just expectations. >> >> I have been in and out of photography since the 60's and one of my "out" >> phases was just recently when digital took over. I am completed ignorant >> of the differing technologies used to make prints these days. >> >> In any case I just got a Rollei for that bigger negative size and of >> course it is a camera I have dreamed of having since I was a little kid. >> >> Take care, >> Bob James >> >> >> --- >> Rollei List >> >> - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' >> in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org >> >> - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with >> 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org >> >> - Online, searchable archives are available at >> //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list >> >> > > > --- > Rollei List > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' > in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list