Rob: Thank you for the idea about rolling the drums. I use a Jobo for B&W and I have wondered what I will do when the machine dies. Hand-rolling the drums is a good idea. Buying a replacement won't be easy or cheap insomuch that Jobo no longer makes the model I use. In the time being, I'll simply count the number of rolls the Jobo does in 15 seconds and I'll know the rate to do it by hand should I have to. I must admit that the Jobo makes developing film fun in addition to producing consistent results. Once I dialed my development times in through trial and error, I started to consistent to get great negatives. Best--Doug ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Robert Lilley" <54moggie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Reply-To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:22:26 -0400 >Thor, > >If you are doing just B&W, I wouldn't bother with Jobo processors but the >drums are great. > >I own a JoboDrum Expert 3006 drum I use for 4x5 and 5x7 sheet film with >wonderful results. It has gearing on the front to be used with some of the >Jobo processors but I just use it by itself atop an old Chronomega 'dual >action agitator' drum roller. Likewise, I used the smaller Jobo drums for >35mm and medium format. My overall take is that B&W temperatures, etc are >not as critical as color and so do not require the temperature bath set up >the processors provide. In fact until I got the Chronomega roller, I just >rolled the drums back and forth on my kitchen counter with good results. > >Rob > >-----Original Message----- >From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >[mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thor Legvold >Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 9:59 AM >To: rolleiusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [rollei_list] Jobo rotary processor > >I've come over a photographer selling off his darkroom equipment. > >Among other things, is a Jobo Autolab 1000. > >It looks a lot like an ATL-1500. He used it mainly for E6, if I get >it, I would be using it for B&W. > >A few questions. > >Is this processor any good? Recommended for B&W, or is it more >appropriate for colour? > >What would a well used one go for (yes, I've looked over eBay and >other places)? > >While I'm there I plan on picking up an easel or two, extra >safelights and contact sheet frames for 35mm, 120 film and 5x7 sheets. > >Cheers, >Thor > >--- >Rollei List > >- Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >- Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' >in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > >- Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with >'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > >- Online, searchable archives are available at >//www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > >--- >Rollei List > >- Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >- Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' >in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > >- Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with >'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > >- Online, searchable archives are available at >//www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > > --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list