[rollei_list] Re: 3,5F Planar, B&W again

  • From: `Richard Knoppow <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 15:45:02 -0700

   If you look at a book on interpreting aerial photos you will find that the picture should be oriented so that the shadows fall toward you, even if the photo is reversed. If the shadows fall away from you the depth will be reversed. This is the effect you are referring to below.
   When I saw the other photos of the waterfall in Carlos' bunch it became obvious the picture was upside down. If I had a way of inverting the picture on my computer I would have tried it.

On 4/11/2020 3:29 PM, John Wild wrote:

If you look at a photo of craters on the moon upside down,  they look like mountains. It's the direction of light/shadows and what the brain expects to see.

When I turned my computer upside down,  I noticed that Carlos' copyright was the wrong way up. I went and had another glass of wine and found if I turned my computer on its side and lay on the floor, it all seemed to make more sense. 😂

I like the photo Carlos, the lighting is good, it picks out the fine detail. I admit, when I first saw it, I thought it was a tree trunk, and because you said the lighting was strange, I didn't really question my first impression.

John

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*From:* rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of CarlosMFreaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Saturday, April 11, 2020 10:11:04 PM
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*Subject:* [rollei_list] Re: 3,5F Planar, B&W again
Jan et al:
              I needed to rebuild the roll original position in the camera to know the true, I had scanned it within a series two months ago and I never touched it up to yesterday and I handled it as I found it, I was convinced it was in the right position, but I was wrong, Jan is right, it was upside down, you can see the proof here, taking as reference the frame number 7 with my children in the camera original position and you compare it with the three frames about the same subject including the image at Flickr:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1K0oQJNA6nFK2lRXEuxjCDXKIMv9ojcRm/view?usp=sharing
I corrected the image position at Flickr
https://flic.kr/p/2iNLwJE

Thank you very much Jan! and thanks for the other opinions too.
Carlos

PS: You can see in the roll it was one of the last pictures I took that day, I was in a hurry to avoid the night during the travel and I did not recall details.

El sáb., 11 abr. 2020 a las 13:27, Jan Decher (<wanderjan@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:wanderjan@xxxxxxxxx>>) escribió:

    Hi Carlos,

    Sorry, but I still think its upside-down. Turn is on its
    head and it makes a lot more sense with the splash-pool at
    the bottom and the water rolling over the edge ar the top.
    What do the others think?

    Happy Easter,
    Jan




    On Apr 11, 2020, at 11:51 AM, CarlosMFreaza
    <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

    Hello Jan:
           It was the reason I wrote it is a somewhat strange
    backlit. The picture is in the right position, the upper
    part is water falling and the sun is reflected on the
    point where the water starts to fall; if you look it
    quickly, it even could look like the water and the sun
    reflected on the water are the sky.

    El sáb., 11 abr. 2020 a las 6:40, Jan Decher
    (<wanderjan@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:wanderjan@xxxxxxxxx>>) escribió:

        Carlos,

        Did you upload the picture upside-down?  Looks weird…

        Cheers from sunny Germnay,
        Jan



        On Apr 11, 2020, at 11:19 AM, CarlosMFreaza
        <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

        This is from the same roll taken last January
        Rolleiflex 3,5F, Planar 3,5/75; Kodak Tmax 400; Romek
        PQ7 1+3 :

        A somewhat strange backlit:
        https://flic.kr/p/2iNLwJE

        Carlos



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