Hi, Matt. Can't answer on the 525, but it sure seems like an important stop to be = missing. I owned a 770 at one time (little brother to the 840), and it also had the = Trompette borrowed to 16' in the Great, and all the pedal reeds were = borrowed. In the analog days, Rodgers and others were pretty stingy with the reeds, = especially on the Great. Part of it was a carry over from organ fashions = stemming from before the 50's before Orgelbewegung took hold in the US. In = those days, many organs had no reeds on the great. Part because to do the = reeds right in analog required a separate keyer that was more expensive = than for flutes & diapasons. This explains the borrowed pedal reeds, but not the 16' Great Trompette, = which I have never understood. Without a 16' flue of some sort, the reed = sticks out like a sore thumb. Maybe one of the designers at the factory = had some piece where it really worked, or maybe the plan was to use it = with swell couplers & great stops. On the 770 & 840, though, you could set most stops to a soft or loud = setting from the front of the console. Set the Swell for a loud Trompette = 16' and the Great for soft (or vice versa). With this approach there might = be some little use for the separate 16' trompette on the great. But for me, I've always thought it would be more useful at 8'. They = finally did that on the 760 which came out 3 or 4 years after the 770 & = 840. Maybe they listened to their dealers? Charlie >>> caddyorganist@xxxxxxxxxxx 11-07-03 4:43 PM >>> While sitting at my 525 I began to wonder about something I never = really=20 understood. Why is there no 4' Flute in the Swell? I find this rather = odd.=20 Every model above the 525 has a 4' Flute in the Swell. To me this seems = like=20 an odd stop to leave off. Why was this done? My next two questions came while looking at the stop list for the = Windsor=20 840. Why is the only reed on the Great a 16' Contre Trompette borrowed = from=20 the Swell? I would think that if the only reed on the Great was going to = be=20 borrowed, it would at least have been at 8'. Also, why are the only reeds = in=20 the Pedal borrowed from the Swell? To me this seems to be another odd = choice=20 in a Rodgers stop list. If anybody could explain the reasoning behind these questions I'd = really=20 appreciate it. An inquiring mind would like to know. Matt G. CaddyOrganist@xxxxxxxxxxx=20 _________________________________________________________________ Send a QuickGreet with MSN Messenger=20 http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/cdp_games=20 ____________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or set to vacation,=20 go to www.frogmusic.com/rodgersmem.html=20 If you have any difficulty with this or PayPal,=20 please contact noeljones@xxxxxxxxxxxxx for help! Shop for Playing Guides to your Rodgers Organ at Frog Music Press ____________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or set to vacation, go to www.frogmusic.com/rodgersmem.html If you have any difficulty with this or PayPal, please contact noeljones@xxxxxxxxxxxxx for help! Shop for Playing Guides to your Rodgers Organ at Frog Music Press