Wayduhminut, wayduhminut!! Ed said it's possible to have a voice palette stop and its alternate at the same time by setting one on a piston or dialing it up manually, then bring on the other via crescendo pedal settings...Noel Jones said "Don't try this at home!" and advised against it. Butbut but...this is bound to happen (if indeed it does) any time you have any palette stops on EITHER a piston OR the crescendo and you use them together, right? If I'm playing the Gt Cromorne and then use the crescendo, which is set to the alternate Trompete, am I going to get both, dangerous or not? I don't think so...seems to me that in any case involving a palette stop, the most recent change will supercede the previous one. The Cromorne will change to the Trompete if the latter is set on the crescendo, and it is activated after the piston. If, while the crescendo is on, I hit another piston using Cromorne, then 'bye 'bye Trompete, the Cromorne's back...not both...true? Ed says I will get both...my ears say no, at least not on my 835, so Noel Jones can stop worrying...right? Noel Heinze Asheville, NC