List, Bad grounds can be serious. I have gotten zapped more than once due to improperly wired (thus the ground is "floating") outlets or breaker boxes. One of my most valuable tools in my box is a polarity checker (available from Home Depot, et.al.). I find bad outlets in about 10% of the churches I visit. However, even that device can't find all of the ground problems. On one visit to a church, the ground pins between two outlets differed by about 30 volts... one line came from the "old box" in the "old building" and the other was on a "new" box in the "new" building. A 30 Volt potential difference can not only cause the organ to hum... but can make the organist hum an new tune also. In this case we ended up having a licensed electrician come in and fix the system. He did a great job... new stakes to earth ground in the blower room, etc. The potential differnce was reduced to less than 3 microvolts... and not a trace of hum. Ed noel jones <zimbelstern@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Your email service has been changed to our new group host, freelists.org You can now quit Yahoo, unless you wish to continue being a Yahoo member for any other reason. Freelist does not accept advertising and does not distribute addresses. The membership directory is also hidden, at my request, for your privacy. In this time of virus wars, you should feel confident in using this email service also because it does not accept and distribute attachments, the source of virus infections. I should also mention that the current virus acts in the following manner: It takes email addresses found in host computers and sends bogus, even insulting messages out to these addresses. This means people who have gotten email from you can have a computer with a virus that will send messages out that appear to come from your email address, though the error messages that come back definitely show an address path that indicates that the message did not originate from your computer. More than you wanted to know about this all, but it is a strange one. This virus does not take up residence in MAC computers, which is the computer I use to approve all mail, so that is a bit of added protection, I understand. Anyhow, do not be afraid to post a message! I should also mention that I have been working with a church that has wished to record directly from the line output of a Rodgers Trillium 837, but has been faced with a hum problem when trying to do that. To help eliminate this they had an electrician put the organ and the church sound system on the same circuit, but this did not eliminate the hum. A matching box with ground lifter did not help at all. talked with the church, and I have just gotten email from them that the problem has been solved. ANOTHER outlet on the same circuit had a bad ground and has been repaired and the problem is gone! It's easy to blame these things on the organ and/or the sound board, but this is just a another case in which they were both innocent. noel jones --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Sign-up for Video Highlights of 2002 FIFA World Cup