[roc-chat] Re: FW: FAA UAS Registration

  • From: "Adrian P. Bailey" <adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 12:37:24 +0000

New technology often prompts knee-jerk reactions from governments. Fortunately,
when driving our cars and trucks these days, we’re no longer required to have a
flag man walking in front of us on the freeway, waving a red flag.

From: roc-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:roc-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of R Dierking
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 1:46 PM
To: David Smith <davew6dps@xxxxxxxxx>; roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [roc-chat] Re: FW: FAA UAS Registration

He was an engineering student that posted a video of his RC Quad raising up
over some bushes and firing a pistol. Yup, last time I saw the report, just
about all federal enforcement agencies wanted to talk to him.
Interesting he was able to do it, but probably not the best idea to post the
video on YouTube.

Richard

From: David Smith<mailto:davew6dps@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 12:09 PM
To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [roc-chat] Re: FW: FAA UAS Registration


Wow. I hadn't heard about that one.

I think he would be prosecuted by the same agencies and the guy in who mounted
a shogun on an ultralight for goose hunting. That was the FAA, BATFE, and the
Arizona Game and Fish service. The state handled his accommodations for three
years, and the feds imposed some pretty substantial fines.

So what us next, a bomb - bay to drop actual bombs?

David P Smith
Tripoli 15803
NAR 78668
Amateur Extra: W6DPS
ROC Board Member
On Jan 11, 2016 11:37 AM, "Adrian P. Bailey"
<adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Would that science student who mounted a handgun on a drone have to register
it? With whom?

From: roc-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:roc-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
[mailto:roc-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:roc-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On
Behalf Of David Smith
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 10:55 AM
To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [roc-chat] Re: FW: FAA UAS Registration


I once heard an AMA board member refer to the association as "the NAR for
modellers".

They seem to be living up (or down) to that role.

When I registered it was not onerous at all. Other than the $5 it seems like it
will be as easy to renew as any other federal license...

It would be convenient if renewing was automatic with AMA membership. I know
the ARRL has brought this up occasionally for ham licenses, since there is no
fee and they are already license agents...

David P Smith
Tripoli 15803
NAR 78668
Amateur Extra: W6DPS
ROC Board Member
On Jan 11, 2016 10:29 AM, "Adrian P. Bailey"
<adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
FYI


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