[realmusicians] Re: Does anybody Have an Unattended Install for XP?

  • From: Indigo <33indigo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 01:05:29 -0500

If I get the M F bosx to run,
Then I be havin some fun.

On 11/30/2011 8:44 PM, Chris Belle wrote:
Image you box befo you be illin',
when you be blind and you wife not willin'
then you get action, just wait and see,
then you be workin' just like me.

that's the lame rap of the day 'grin'.

W7 installs moved to an xml based format, probably DJX has a working one,
I'm using the one Brian Smart gave us all way back when,
and there's a bunch of waik tools you can install from ms, if you want
to figure all that stuff out.

W7 is smarter about some text mode drivers and such, but you still may
have to have sighted help getting it to go on some boxes, on my friend's
machine,
it won't work with the install xml and a cd you pu the xml on a thumb
drive, and it's supposed to go in, but he's got all his ahci modestuff
turned on and I don't so that's probably why everything works on my boxes.

When I got them from Jim, I made damned sure everything was just the way
i wanted it,
so I could operate independantly.

some folks say ahci mode turned on gives you beter performance, but I
don't know if it matters that much with physical conventional drives, as
that will always be your botle neck.

Now if you had a real ssd, one of those 800 dollar jobbers,
not the glorified thumb drive like junk for a couple of bills that are
popular but not really that much better than a conventional drive well
maintained and not too full, then having ahci mode turned on and using
your full bandwidth might help some, or even a dedicated raid card.

I don't have sata 3 yet, so can't speak to that personally, but I know
even with ahci mode turned off these machines just fly.

Those samsung drives are great.

It's better to have larger drives even if you don't fill them up much,
you'll actually get better performance from a drive less than half full.

Remember, the less seeking the os has to do, and the fewer files it has
to sift through.

So windows fly's on a terabyte drive of it's own.

Mostly empty.

And ahci mode is turned off correctly so I get full access to both w7
and xp installs.


At 10:25 AM 11/30/2011, you wrote:
I just thought there might be a package, like MS seems to have a Win7
unattended install pack now.
If Hannah needs to assist with any of it; I may as well sweet talk her
into the whole thing this time, and try to get a full functioning
unattended for XP together later.
I've got to install XP drivers from the factory disk afterwards
anyway, and hope they work.
This ZT Systems, for a cheapo computer Made In USA, has good support.
Their Hindu technicians speak English better than I do, and either
know their stuff, or look it up, and answer the phone in 3 or 4
minutes average.
MS, and many another huge corporation, isn't half that good.
I remember one MS tech, named Govinda; or maybe it was Chrishna; when
I asked him a technical point, he said, Sir, for certain, that is the
64 million dollar magic question!
I understood perfectly, PC's are actually magic boxes, and; who knows
why they sometimes work and sometimes don't.
Probably only Be ellza bub knows, he invented them, after all, didn't he?

I think I want the unattended install all on a CD or DVD, in case the
internal hard drive is down.
When I have swappable hard drives, that will be a different story.
Why even bother with attended or unattended install then?
Just keep Windows XP Pro on a partition of all drives, and image, your
favorite word, the operating system from 1 drive to the other drive;
that needs XP on it, right?
Indigo L

On 11/29/2011 11:41 PM, Chris Belle wrote:
Because that's just how it works.

YOu could try using nlite, but I've had issues with that thing.

Best thing for you to do is takesome time, and focus on learning to do
it if you really want to.

There are a couple of ways, my favorite way is doing an unattended
install from the hard-drive, which gives you the most options, because
you can format and partition before hand, and you get interactive
install messages first in dos until the installer reboots, and then with
narrator if you picked the f2 option or is it f1, I forget, but the
windows way will wipe out everything and give you one big partition.

i don't like that because I like to leave my email, and other data,
project folders, etc in tact on another partition or drive and have a
small system drive.

I start out with a fat32 drive so I can see everything, and use a
bootable flopy,
or thumb-drive.

Bootable cds are ok, but don't give you the flexibility of a dynamic
install so you can change something on the fly if you want, say you want
to load an ntfs driver to see ntfs drives, or cdrom drivers, or
smartdrv, or what ever.

I don't have time to go through all this right now, but when things slow
down, and you really want to learn this stuff, I'll do my best to
help you.

In the mean time, try nlite, and see if it gives you joy for a windows
only turn key least fuss and muss way of doing it.

Not being a smart ass or anything, but as you know, rewards come to
those who learn the tools,
some times there's no other way around it.

Like programming for instance.

I'm an idiot with that stuff, tom can do in his sleep or in one
afternoon what took me weeks to do, but his brain works that way.

Mine doesn't.

So it's lots of elbowgrease, and trial and error.

I didn't get my first windows install exactly right the first time
either.

and it's not the same for all systems, because depending on how your
bios is set, whether ahci mode is on or off, whether you need text mode
drivers for certain things which can hang up your system,
all that can stop the show.

I remember on an old machine, when the ata133 promise controler hung me
up, and I had to switch to the standard ata ports for windows to go in
because of course, I couldn't do the f6 text mode screen,
and some of the first sata controlers were a bitch because
they didn't immulate ide mode in a way xp liked so guess what, drivers
again.

the unattended file gives you some control over that stuff, but nlite
can make these low level tasks easier,
but unless he's fived it, I had some issue with the boot part of the cd,
can't remember what I did, I think I had to go get them from microsoft
or some such, I've slept since then.

Good luck with it all,
I'll be glad to send you my install files, but you'll need to start with
xp on the hd, or it might work from a usb drive, and Hanah could help
you through the first part where dos usually would talk if you don't
have the serial port working on your machine, you might need to see if
it's disabled in the bios and if you've got the right kind of pin out
for it, remember there are two kinds.


At 06:28 PM 11/29/2011, you wrote:
I just listened to a podcast on an unattended install for XP Pro, and
I'd have to grab a file from Windows and a file from the web, or
somewhere else, and somehow get them all in a folder, and burn a
bootable CD with Nero?
I don't even use Nero any more.
Surely there's a pack somewhere with all that's required all together
in a single folder, at least the part outside the Windows XP install
disk, so I could just plunk the added part in the folder with XP
install, burn it to a bootable Cd, and be ready to go?
Why do we need to assemble this thing from parts, like building your
own car from parts you bought in the auto parts store.
Thanks for advice,
Indigo L

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For all your audio production needs and technology training, visit us at

www.affordablestudioservices.com
or contact
Chris Belle
cb1963@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
or
Stephie Belle
stephieb1961@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
for customized web design



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