[real-eyes] Re: Fw: US Currency Reader
- From: "Darla Rogers" <djrogers0628@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 17:26:59 -0500
I think you're seeing a very can-do attitude that feels very thwarted by the
inaccessibility of things she **must** have to be on the same level as her
sighted counterparts, and if you saw her presentation the other night, you
know the breadth of people she must work with who don't give a hang if their
little presentations are accessible to her, so she can respond
intelligently.
I have known Sheila for a very long time--I don't recall exactly the first
time we met--but she is a very can-do person, and we're lucky to have
someone of her caliber advocating for the things that would make Kansas City
an even nicer place to live.
Darla
-----Original Message-----
From: real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Mitchell Lynn
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2014 4:55 PM
To: real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [real-eyes] Re: Fw: US Currency Reader
I'd say ego has everything to do with it. It was unspoken, but the
implication is there all over the place. It's possible I misinterpreted,
however.
On 07/20/14 4:18 PM, Darla Rogers wrote:
> Hi Mitchel,
>
> Ego has nothing to do with it, but we want to live our lives at the
> pace and ease as everyone else does; I didn't hear ego in Sheila's
> message. I heard a desire to be as independent as possible; maybe
> independence does mean different things to different folks, but that
doesn't make her wrong.
>
> I can totally empathize with these other things seeming--and perhaps
> being unimportant--when you can't see your children's faces, but you
> hear them; you touch them; you read to them; they read to you, and
> while I don't have many good examples now, most blind parents I
> know--most congenitally blind--don't miss seeing their children's
> faces, but they feel inadequate because they can't be a fourth in a
> carpool etc., so they have to work, at least, doubly hard to make sure
> their children get what the kids of their sighted counterparts get.
>
> If it sounded like I'm negating our desire, I'm certainly not trying
> to do that.
> Darla
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Mitchell Lynn
> Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2014 10:42 PM
> To: real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: Fw: US Currency Reader
>
> It sucks. And when it is all said and done, I will still be blind. I
> still won't be able to see my kids faces. That bothers me more than
> all the inaccessible devices, appliances, and other consumer goods
> that the rest of the world can use without a thought or care. There
> are exceptions, of course, but asking for help from my fellow man
> bothers me not at all. I do it with no more thought than millions of
> people who stop at gas stations and ask directions when they need to.
> I've even had folks lost in my neighborhood ask me for
> directions--imagine that. There are hundreds--if not thousands--of
> products out there to make our lives
> easier: thinking here of marking appliances etc. There are skills and
> techniques to be learned and our minds to be used; these things will
> cover much of the rest of our needs. The goods in the stores still
> won't be labeled in braille, and I won't own one of those fancy
> phones. As long as I am around, there will be at least some need for sales
clerks.
> They must remember me at Christmas. We all have our own burden to bear.
> That burden is placed on us by our blindness, but the dimensions and
> shape of that burden is determined entirely by us. Like it or not, our
> impetuous demands for accessible this and accessible that is still
> placing a burden on society. The difference is that the burden is
> largely upfront, and it is spread very thinly. And, of course, we as
> individuals remain anonymous, so we don't have to feel lowered or
embarrassed at having to depend on others.
> It doesn't damage our precious egos.
>
> On 07/19/14 9:31 PM, Sheila Styron wrote:
>> What about appliances that aren't accessible, washers, driers,
>> microwaves,
> etc? I don't have sighted slaves around to work all those for me. When
> I go into a hotel room, I don't know what the buttons on the phone are
> besides the numbers, what's in the little bottles in the bathroom,
> what is on the menu in the restaurant. Why is it all right for blind
> people to have to constantly ask for sighted assistance or do
> without? information and access everyone else takes for granted? And don't
forget captchas!
>
>> On Jul 19, 2014, at 9:09 PM, Mitchell Lynn <mitch.lynn@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> You missed the point. I could care less about vending machines myself.
>>> They can disappear from Earth today, and it would impact me not at all.
>>>
>>> That's the problem with you: you don't care. Egocentirsm sums it up
>>> quite nicely in a neat little package. Never mind what it costs the
>>> rest of society: I have to have mine right now stamp, stamp stamp.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 07/19/14 7:34 PM, Sheila Styron wrote:
>>>> I don't care if vending machines have to retool, With the
>>>> ridiculous
> prices they charge and how inaccessible they generally are, they can
> just suck it up big time. So there!
>>>> On Jul 19, 2014, at 7:09 PM, Mitchell Lynn <mitch.lynn@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Unless you switch to a mostly coin based system. What vending
>>>>> machine is going to change a 20 anyway? Maybe that's a bad
>>>>> question; it has been a long long time since I plugged money into
>>>>> any of those. As for getting ripped off by clerks etc on change, I
>>>>> can't remember that it has ever happened to me. Maybe it has, but
>>>>> if it did it was resultant from dipping into too many of my Mason
>>>>> jars and not my blindness. Next, we will be screaming for
>>>>> accessible
> price tags and access to the stores'
>>>>> scanners so we can know we aren't getting ripped off at check out.
>>>>> Expletive, this crap embarrasses me to be a member of the blind
> community.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 07/19/14 5:16 PM, Jim Ellsworth wrote:
>>>>>> I agree completely. Folks don't realize that countries that have
>>>>>> accessible money created it quite some time ago therefore not
>>>>>> having to make so many changes. It would cost countless millions
>>>>>> of dollars in this country to do it. Also, the transition would
>>>>>> be a
> nightmare.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> [mailto:real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>>>> On Behalf Of William Stephan
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2014 2:22 PM
>>>>>> To: real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: Fw: US Currency Reader
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While I sympathise with those who believe currency should be
>>>>>> identifiable without some kind of non-tactile effort, the task of
>>>>>> making it happen is stupendous. It's not about simply
>>>>>> redesigning currency, it's about re-engineering every single
>>>>>> vending machine, ATM, and probably cash register that's currently
>>>>>> in use. Given that there do now exist accessible and easy-to-use
>>>>>> systems for identifying currency,e.g. iPhones and other portable
>>>>>> devices, I don't believe it's prudent or even legitimate to
>>>>>> expect a re-design at
> this point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> [mailto:real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>>>> On Behalf Of kitty@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 10:19 AM
>>>>>> To: real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: Fw: US Currency Reader
>>>>>>
>>>>>> andrea, I understand that eventually the currency will have
>>>>>> tactile markings and be of contrasting colors. So, maybe this is
>>>>>> a stop gap measure. U know that it sometimes takes the
>>>>>> government a
> while to move smile!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Andrea Breier
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 10:45 AM
>>>>>> To: real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Subject: [real-eyes] Fw: US Currency Reader
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My question is why doesn't the government address the actual
>>>>>> problem, and that is that US currency is not accessable to the
>>>>>> blind population. I don't need another device to pack around.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Andrea Giudice
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 8:17 PM
>>>>>> To: Andrea Giudice
>>>>>> Subject: US Currency Reader
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is very exciting!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andrea
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The announcement below is from the Bureau of Engravings and
>>>>>> Printing (BEP) regarding the availability of currency readers.
>>>>>> Here is a link to the webpage with the article that has been
>>>>>> pasted in
> below:
>>>>>> <http://www.bep.gov/uscurrencyreaderpgm.html>
>>>>>> http://www.bep.gov/uscurrencyreaderpgm.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bureau of Engraving and Printing
>>>>>>
>>>>>> U.S. Department of the Treasury
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As an interim measure in advance of issuing tactile-enhanced
>>>>>> Federal Reserve notes, the BEP is providing currency readers,
>>>>>> free of charge, to eligible blind and visually impaired individuals.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The BEP recently announced its distribution plans for the U.S.
>>>>>> Currency Reader Program. Details of the announcement can be
>>>>>> found in a press release issued on Thursday, July 3, 2014, and
>>>>>> another released on Monday, July 14, 2014.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The U.S. Currency Reader Program will launch in two phases:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pilot: Beginning September 2, 2014, in partnership with the
>>>>>> National Library Service for the Blind and Physically
>>>>>> Handicapped, Library of Congress, (NLS) the BEP will initiate a
>>>>>> four-month pilot where NLS patrons can pre-order a currency
>>>>>> reader. The pilot program allows the government to test its
>>>>>> ordering and
> distribution processes and gauge demand for currency
>>>>>> readers. To receive a currency reader, eligible individuals who are
>>>>>> currently patrons of NLS need only call 1-888-NLS-READ
>>>>>> (1-888-657-7323); the account will be noted and a currency reader
>>>>>> will be delivered to the address on file.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> National Rollout: Currency readers will be widely available to
>>>>>> all
> U.S.
>>>>>> citizens, or persons legally residing in the U.S. who are blind
>>>>>> or visually impaired, starting January 2, 2015. Individuals who
>>>>>> are not NLS patrons must submit an application, signed by a
>>>>>> competent authority who can certify eligibility. Applications
>>>>>> will be available on this website and processed for non-patrons
>>>>>> of NLS
> beginning January 2, 2015.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Additional information about the U.S. Currency Reader Program and
>>>>>> about the currency reader device can be found in the links below.
>>>>>> The BEP encourages organizations that support the blind and
>>>>>> visually impaired community to distribute these materials, or to
>>>>>> incorporate the information provided into individualized
> communications.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *
>>>>>> <http://www.bep.gov/images/MA_-_U_S_Currency_Reader_FAQ_5_6_14_fi
>>>>>> n al.pdf> Frequently Asked Questions about the U.S. Currency
>>>>>> Reader Program
>>>>>>
>>>>>> .
>>>>>> <http://www.bep.gov/images/MA_-_U_S_Currency_Reader_Brochure_5_13
>>>>>> _
>>>>>> 14_final.p
>>>>>> df> U.S. Currency Reader Program Brochure
>>>>>>
>>>>>> .
<http://www.bep.gov/images/iBill_User_Manual_short_version.pdf>
> Print
>>>>>> Guide for Using the iBillR Talking Banknote Identifier
>>>>>>
>>>>>> . <http://www.bep.gov/ibillytred.html> Video Guide for Using the
> iBillR
>>>>>> Talking Banknote Identifier
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Contact Us: For additional questions or comments about the U.S.
>>>>>> Currency Reader Program you may call (844) 815-9388 toll-free or
>>>>>> email meaningful.access@xxxxxxx.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> More about NLS: NLS administers a free library program of
>>>>>> braille and audio materials available to U.S. residents and
>>>>>> citizens living abroad whose low vision, blindness, or physical
>>>>>> handicap makes it difficult to read a standard printed page.
>>>>>> More information about the program and other services provided by
>>>>>> NLS can
> be viewed at http://www.loc.gov/nls/.
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