My lens is only a one-axis machine, as far as the owner's manual can tell me. It does horizontal "Normal" really well, up to about 75 degrees vertically...after that, my unsteadiness raises its ugly head! I don't know if any anti-shake mechanism that us mere mortals can afford could tame that. My balance is definitely not what it used to be, but I do some exercises that help a bit. As for my lens, the VR helps greatly at 1/250, 300mm and lower, but I can hold it about as steady as the VR from 1/500 up. Hmmmm...maybe if I am moving, the Active setting would read it like I was in a chase car, and smooth things out. I'll try and see. When my mind works...cars at the track, PLANES at the air show, Other things in other places. I figure a chair, with somewhat of a raised back for support, and a bit of separation from the front lines of the spectator area, and I should be good to go for propeller planes...jets, it's 1/1000 + and FEAR NOT! Except, there is always some dipstick that walks in front of you if you're sitting down. Oh well, stealth and treachery will win the day! Wendover is poorly-oriented airport, The light wasn't the best...I was praying for some cloud cover to lower the contrast and the acts weren't the same caliber as those at Idaho Falls. They couldn't get one plane started, and most of the preformers had no clue about photo passes for the assembled masses. It was generally one pass, then haul ass for the runway. I left before the jets performed. Anyhow, thanx for the suggestions. Ray; How are you going to rectify the live view only ??? I guess the camera manufacturers are trying to correct the shutter lag, It's one of the most heard complaints about P&S cameras. I get so mad at my wife's Canon!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Knight" <carpixguy@xxxxxxxxx> To: ratpack@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 1:54:33 PM Subject: [ratpack] Re: New camera Hey Carl, I didn't know you were having trouble with the VR on you 70-300. Here is what I know. Normal (switch on the lens) is for when you are not moving, but the subject is. That is what I shoot at the track. Active is when you are moving and the subject is either moving or not, like if you are in a chase car and shooting another car at the track (see how my mind works, it always involves a track). FYI Larr On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Ray Buck < rbuck@xxxxxxxxxxxx > wrote: The shutter lag isn't too bad. Much better than other p&s cameras I've used. I just went outside and tested it...but no cars were moving so I only got a subjective impression. As I wrote earlier, it'll never replace my 7D and 100-400 L lens...even though it has a burst mode (I haven't looked it up to see what it is, but it seems like 3 fps) the 7D's 8 fps can't be beat...along with the 2-axis selectable Image Stabilization in the 100-400. This may be the reason you're having trouble with your VR, Carl. On the Canon lens, there's a mode setting. Mode 1 attempts to stabilize in 2 axes. Mode 2 attempts top stabilize only in the axis NOT detected as panning movement...generally vertical or X-axis. Maybe yer lens (or camera) is set up for X-axis stabilization only. Just a guess. r Sent from my Dreadnought using that barely tolerable Thunderbird email program On 9/27/2010 12:45 PM, humminboid@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: How does it do with moving things like cars, kids or other creatures? The shutter lag is supposed to be a real bear for things like that. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Buck" <rbuck@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: ratpack@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 12:39:07 PM Subject: [ratpack] Re: New camera I've only begun to mess around with it. It also does video. I'll keep everyone updated...but so far, all I've seen that I don't like is the LCD viewfinder. And I'm on the way to rectifying that. Here's another shot that will be immediately recognized by Utahns, but probably not by others. It's the tailings from the Bingham Copper Mine, the largest open pit copper mine in the northern hemisphere (I think that's right...might be in the world.) Photo was cropped and slightly color corrected. But for a P n' S camera....hell, it's great. BTW, I'm making a slide show of the fotos I did at the Shootout. I've just completed the first test shot and the .wmv version is about 30mb. I plan to do a much larger one...like maybe the size of a CD and put it up for sale. I think I'll end up putting the test shot on www.landracing.com (the owner has already contacted me about doing that) to kinda run it up the flag and see if anyone salutes it. If so, I'll proceed with the larger version. Warning: if ya don't like instrumental rock (Jeff Beck, Edgar Winter, Joe Satriani) be prepared to mute the audio. r Sent from my Dreadnought using that barely tolerable Thunderbird email program On 9/27/2010 4:34 AM, John Christensen wrote: That's why I have the little Nikon..... The Canon in your pocked makes people think twice, or take a double take. "Are you happy to see me?" This one is a lot smaller to have on you all the time I bet. My Nikon was about the same money 5+ years ago and is 2.1 MP. This one looks like it takes great shots. JC On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 10:12 PM, Ray Buck < rbuck@xxxxxxxxxxxx > wrote: Doc Freud went so nuts over this camera that I had to buy one: Camera, extra battery and 8 gig card: $200. 14 megapixels, equivalent 25-200mm all optical zoom lens. One of the first shots I took with it. I just held it down at ground level, got an idea of what was in the viewfinder (LCD) and shot it. It won't replace the Canon, but it's an interesting little camera to play with. RtR -- Sent from my Dreadnought using that barely tolerable Thunderbird email program