Actually, that Honda oversteer pics looks more like a spin. Usually oversteer is usually accompanied by same direction as the slide steering input, you weren't trying to fool me were ya? From: ratpack-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ratpack-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of PAUL W WATSON Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 2:35 PM To: ratpack Subject: [ratpack] Just for Larry! Hope you get better soon. I am sending a few shots from Saturdat. #384----speaks for itself. #683----Is this enough over steer for you? #766----The black #4 Miata gave us some interesting times. It seemed like 1 out 4 laps he would get a little sideways. #1516---Same Miata on his last lap. Have to give him credit for trying really hard. He damaged his front splitter about 3 or 4 laps from the end then on the last lap, maybe the next to last lap came around with his rear bumper cover askew. Ok torn to crap. Every time he came around I got up of my fat a-- just to be ready. #1156---what to say other than it is a Z06, black and beautiful, and 10x's quicker than the Ferrari. Paul