Hello,
Sorry I didn't mean to sound grumpy, just very tired.
Arch Linux image is not very hard to create if you follow my scripts
which I posted a message about a few minutes ago.
But you will need some other stuff installed and I have not completed
the documentation yet.
Most significantly, if you use the version of bsdtar which comes with
current versions of Debian or Ubuntu, it will fail, because it needs at
least bsdtar 3.3 to work. Their problem, not mine.
And currently the image is not self-expanding. I still need to fix that.
I will create some talking images, and perhaps a non-talking 64-bit Arch
'server' image.
Mike
On 12/11/2018 21:11, александр епанешников wrote:
oh sorry I did not mean to offend you. English is not my main language
and it may sound dry, but I am very grateful for the help.
I read the installation page of archlinux arm. does not sound very
difficult.
Now I will wait until the raspberries are delivered.
12.11.2018 23:54, Michael A Ray (Redacted sender mike.ray for DMARC) пишет:
Remind me of the other questions, and use the word please again.===========================================================
On 12/11/2018 20:46, александр епанешников wrote:
thanks now i understand. what about my other questions?
12.11.2018 22:36, Michael A Ray (Redacted sender mike.ray for DMARC) пишет:
Hello,===========================================================
Here is an explanation of my comments about the 'userland' code.
If you look in the /opt directory on a Pi running Raspbian, and probably
most other distributions, you will see some stuff in /opt/vc.
In this directory there is code which relates to the 'video core', hence
'vc'.
The 'vc', or the GPU (graphics processing unit), is responsible for
rendering both sound and video on the Pi.
Currently only 32-bit versions of the 'userland' code, that is, the
stuff that drives the GPU, is available, and the Raspberry Pi Foundation
have stated that at the moment they have no intention of producing
64-bit versions of this code.
It cannot just be made to work with a 64-bit kernel without being
rewritten a bit, because it has to interface directly to the kernel.
If you look at the processes running on a Pi running Raspbian, or other
32-bit distros, you will see a process called 'vchiq'. This is the
'video core hardware interface queue' process and it is that which
queues both audio and video into the GPU for rendering.
So, currently, no 64-bit distro can produce sound or graphics, like a GUI.
As I said, there is little point in a 64-bit OS anyway, since the Pi has
only 1GB of RAM, and a 32-bit OS occupies less memory anyway.
The only time you might need 64-bit is to run anything that requires it.
I have a cluster of four 64-bit Arch Linux Pi computers running
MongoDB, because the latest versions of MongoDB do not support 32-bit.
Mike
On 12/11/2018 18:20, александр епанешников wrote:
If you like I can put an ArchLinux image up on the site very quickly.
oh thanks. but i want to build it myself. maybe you can give me sum
instructions. i already have archlinux on my pc. and i know how to
master talking arch iso. I do not think that it is more difficult.
What kind of Pi have you ordered?
i ordered 3b+
although I can produce a
64-bit ArchLinux image, 64-bit has no audio because there is no userland
code for 64-bit.
can explain in more detail. I did not quite understand. why is that?
There will be no GUI but that can be installed relatively easily.
I don't really need a graphical interface. especially raspberry
performance is not great.
thanks.
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