Amir: That is where we use various techniques like IP MultiPathing or NIC teaming etc. Basically we club bunch of network cards to a single logical one and the load balancing is done at card level which is transparent to TCP/UDP layer. Regards, Gopal On 9/8/05, Hameed, Amir <Amir.Hameed@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I guess I just can't let go of this topic. When using LLT, the LMX > module takes care of the load-balancing of packets across the available > interconnects. How is it done in UDP and how does UDP recognized > multiple interconnects. Would I need to use the "cluster_interconects" > parameter with UDP? If yes then I believe it has its own problems in > Solaris as stated by Oracle: > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -------- > Note: > When you set CLUSTER_INTERCONNECTS in Solaris configurations, the > interconnect High Availability features are not available. In other > words, an interconnect failure that is normally unnoticeable would > instead cause an Oracle cluster failure. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -------- > > Thanks > Amir > -----Original Message----- > From: racdba-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:racdba-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Ravi_Kulkarni@xxxxxxxx > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 1:11 PM > To: racdba@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: RE: High "global cache blocks lost" statistics on one RAC node > > Following doc, a little-dated, covers for all Unix Flavors and should > have what you are looking for > > > Doc ID: Note:181489.1 > Subject: Tuning Inter-Instance Performance in RAC and OPS > Type: BULLETIN > Status: PUBLISHED > Content Type: TEXT/X-HTML > Creation Date: 25-MAR-2002 > Last Revision Date: 18-JAN-2004 > > > Thanks, > Ravi. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: racdba-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:racdba-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Hameed, Amir > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 10:56 AM > To: racdba@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: RE: High "global cache blocks lost" statistics on one RAC node > > Thank you KG. > This is really useful information. It will help me save time by not > trying to spend time to resolve something that is not stable. > Thanks for everyone's input and comments on this subject. I will change > the protocol from LLT to UDP and then run the same test again and see if > the stats of lost blocks changes. > Does anyone have any guidelines on what to tune in UDP? > > Thanks > Amir > -----Original Message----- > From: racdba-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:racdba-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of K Gopalakrishnan > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 11:46 AM > To: racdba@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: High "global cache blocks lost" statistics on one RAC node > > Amir: > > Not just Raj, Most of my customers (all are biggest banks/telcos) run > their critical apps on UDP. Few guys tried Veritas LLT, Sun RSM and > miserably failed. Anand was also part of that experiment. Sun RSM is > totally unstable and we could't find a single reference customer from > Sun who is on production with RSM on 15K. > > About LLT, one of the largest bank in India (they are the biggest OLTP > database in the world) tried thier best and now they have gone back to > UDP. I also have similar experience with HMP on Hyperfabric on one of > the benchmarks and finally we have gone back to UDP. > > KG > > On 9/8/05, Hameed, Amir <Amir.Hameed@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > It is good to know that there are folks who are running their mission > > critical apps on UDP. > > > > ________________________________ > > From: racdba-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:racdba-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On > > Behalf Of rjamya > > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 7:12 AM > > To: racdba@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: Re: High "global cache blocks lost" statistics on one RAC > node > > > > > > We too run mission critical databases (where downtime costs us > thousands) > > and they all use UDP and have always been reliable. > > > > YMMV > > Raj > > > > On 9/7/05, Hameed, Amir <Amir.Hameed@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > This is a mission critical application and processes millions of $$ > of > > > revenue and I am a little hesitant in going with UDP because of its > > > not-so-reliable reputation. I may escalate this with VOS tomorrow > and > > > see what they have to say. > > > > > > Amir > > > > > > > > > > -- > Best Regards, > K Gopalakrishnan > Co-Author: Oracle Wait Interface, Oracle Press 2004 > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/007222729X/ > > > -- Best Regards, K Gopalakrishnan Co-Author: Oracle Wait Interface, Oracle Press 2004 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/007222729X/