And so it should heat up, these security certificates allow for good intentioned people to trample all over our charter rights. Zundel is not the only one held under these certificates. We cannot allow the crown to arbitratrly decide who is a threat. Securiuty issues are incredibly complex - expecially with todays asymetric threat - but if we allow certificates to exist without a time expiry or some additional control are we any better that a third world dictatorship? I am surprised that Zundel is only the first to challenge the legislation (which in my humble opinion cannot withstand Charter scrunity). There isn't even a notwithstanding clause.. We need more challenges against this legislation. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Kennedy <2srk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 12:19 pm Subject: [ql06] CONSTITUTION: Zundel Argues Charter Rights Violated > Here we go. . . > > As expected, Ernst Zundel's lawyer is challenging the security > certificate==20 > the government is using to keep him in jail. He's also challenging > the=20Immigration and Refugee Protection Act on what look to be > Charter s. 7=20 > grounds. The crown is countering with procedural stalling, arguing > Zundel's==20 > in the wrong court. > > This looks like it's going to heat up! > > > Wednesday =BB November 19 =BB 2003 > > Release jailed Holocaust-denier Zundel, charter rights violated: > lawyer says > > NANCY CARR > Canadian Press > > Tuesday, November 18, 2003 > > TORONTO (CP) - A defence lawyer for Holocaust-denier Ernst Zundel > asked a=20 > judge Tuesday for the German citizen's immediate release because > his=20detention violates the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. > > Zundel, who has no criminal record in Canada and is not facing any > charges,==20 > has been in solitary confinement since February after being > deported to=20 > Canada for overstaying a visitor's visa in the United States. He > is being=20 > held in jail on a security certificate while the courts determine, > in a=20 > separate proceeding, whether he is a security risk to Canada and > should be= > =20 > deported to Germany. > > "This man, who has been a resident in Canada without committing a > crime,=20has been certified as being a danger to Canada," defence > lawyer Peter=20 > Lindsay said Tuesday morning in the Superior Court of Justice. > > "In Germany, he will likely be jailed for Holocaust denials > despite being=20 > exonerated by Canadian courts." > > Lindsay argued that the 2001 Immigration and Refugee Protection > Act, under= > =20 > which Zundel is being held, is unconstitutional because, among > other=20reasons, it denies the detainee an appeal and allows for > "secret=20proceedings" between the Crown and a judge. > > Zundel, 64, dressed in blue pants and a green suede jacket, > acknowledged=20his supporters as they filed into court, but he did > not address the court=20 > Tuesday. Judge Mary Lou Benotto allowed Zundel, once unhandcuffed, > to sit=20 > at a desk behind his lawyer rather than in the prisoner's box so > that he=20 > and Lindsay could confer. > > Lindsay referred to his client as "an unpopular man, even a > notorious man." > > "The reason for that is essentially he has denied the Holocaust," > Lindsay=20said. > > The proceeding - called an application for a writ of habeas corpus > - is=20 > what Lindsay described as an "extreme remedy" used to protect a > person who= > =20 > is unlawfully confined. It was expected to take no more than two > days,=20after which Zundel could be released from jail. > > Crown attorney Douglas MacIntosh, however, said Superior Court was > not the= > =20 > place to hear Zundel's case because Parliament has indicated in > the past=20 > that Federal Court is where immigration issues should be heard. > > He asked that Benotto stay the request for Zundel's release, > arguing that=20 > the ongoing proceedings under Federal Court Judge Pierre Blais > would=20eventually yield a decision. > > "Parliament has contemplated that the Federal Court of Canada has > exclusive==20 > jurisdiction over security cases," MacIntosh told Benotto. > > "This court would be singularly at a disadvantage in evaluating > the various= > =20 > considerations Parliament has taken into account in drafting this=20 > legislation." > > MacIntosh also stressed that as a permanent resident, Zundel does > not have= > =20 > the same rights as Canadian citizens. > > "The most fundamental principle of justice in the immigration > context is=20 > non-citizens don't have the unqualified right to enter or remain in=20 > Canada," MacIntosh said. > > He added that the delay in Zundel's case was largely because one > of his=20 > defence lawyers, Doug Christie, has had a full schedule and has > been too=20 > busy to appear in court. > > If Zundel is not released after Benotto makes her ruling, the > detention=20review which is trying to determine whether he is a > risk to Canadian=20 > security is scheduled to resume in Federal Court on Dec. 10. The > review has= > =20 > been proceeding for more than six months. The length of that > proceeding is= > =20 > another reason why Zundel's detention is unconstitutional, Lindsay > said. > When he was jailed in February, Zundel applied for refugee status > in=20Canada. He was denied release by the Immigration and Refugee > Board three=20 > times before Ottawa suspended the application May 2, one day after > the=20security certificate was issued. > > Zundel, who has lived in Canada since 1958, fled to Tennessee to > be with=20 > his wife before a January 2002 ruling by the Canadian Human Rights=20 > Commission that a website he controls spreads anti-Semitic messages. > > He remains in solitary confinement at Toronto's Metro West > Detention Centre. > > Lindsay was scheduled to respond to the Crown's arguments > Wednesday. It was= > =20 > not known when Benotto would render a decision. > =A9 Copyright 2003 The Canadian Press > > > >