Hello Jurgen! I did see the posting and it made me smile. I quit working on the VelAero when I wrote the article. I felt that I had taken the long-trail approach to its logical end and a better solution would require a new approach and new researchers. I have kept my hand in the human-powered vehicle building, however and have been working on other Holy Grails (lost causes?) I have built a sucessful add-on mechanism for recumbents that allows for arm-power in addition to conventional circular pedalling. The arms move together in a rowing motion and the steering and rowing are decoupled so one motion is not influenced by the other. I have been riding an old Avatar (which I have been riding for 20 years!) with this mechanism attached to it. I would say it bumps up the total power output by at least 30%. The last year I have been building and am now debugging a tricycle that leans into the corners. It is a velomobile configuration and it drives the two front wheels and steers the one rear wheel. Very similar to Buckminster Fuller's Dymaxion car of the 1930's. The two front wheels are articulated to allow one to move up while the other moves down and thus cause the vehicle to bank. The technical issue of course is that bank angle is a function of rate of turn as well as angle of turn. My first attempt to couple steering and banking together with a fixed relationship was not successul. The current embodiment has banking control and steering control independent. Unfortunately I am guessing that the potential instability issues associated with the rear-steering may require some coupling between bank and steer to overcome them (the stability issues). The steering fork is raked rearword at 75 degrees but the offset is such that there is no trail. My son Kyle who is 23 and an industrial design student has become my test pilot and he will try the latest configuration whe he comes home for Christmas. Probably more that you wanted to hear... Craig -----Original Message----- From: Jürgen Mages <jmages@xxxxxx> Sent: Dec 15, 2004 10:58 AM To: python@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [python] Re: Rear Steering Recumbent Bicycles > It is interesting to see how the prospect of a rear- > steering recumbent bicycle continues to attract > researchers. It is also flattering that a few remember > the work of us old veterans! > > Craig Cornelius Hi Craig, welcome to our list - I feel honoured! Guess you have read the postings about you: Michael>> I was being conceived during the summer of 1978, Michael>> when Craig J. Cornelius was building his first Michael>> RSRB, which featured a four-bar linkage steering Michael>> mechanism. Michael>> Michael>> Seems like fate! Jürgen> Jürgen> That is remarkably funny! Jürgen> Would be great to have one of those recumbent Jürgen> veterans in our list. Jürgen> Lots of knowledge and experience. Did you continue your experiments with the VelAero? Cheers from Jürgen. PS: The python list is not about RWS recumbents, so this is slightly off topic. But what the heck - it is an interesting subject ;-) ============================================================ This is the Python Mailinglist at freelists.org Listmaster: Juergen Mages jmages@xxxxxx ============================================================