I think it was Sinar that made a vacuum based film holder for 4x5. Look on Ebay if you need one, they show up every once in a while... Or check with a Sinar dealer. Linhof also made one, less expensive ... Frank Filippone red735i@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.