[pure-silver] Re: odd, old split-toned (?) print
- From: Bill Stephenson <photographica@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:40:47 -0500
OK, I just read your post again and realize that I misunderstood you.
You're saying that there are _errors_, not just fine _detail_. Sorry.
Although everything I said about the colorists was true, it probably
doesn't apply here.
-Bill <checking his glasses>
On Sunday, December 19, 2004, at 04:36 PM, Jeffrey Krenzel wrote:
> I didn't think of hand tinting because the print is so
> small. Maybe it was partially masked, as there are
> very small parts of the print that should be entirely
> cold have very small bits of warm tone to them.
>
> --- Richard Knoppow <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jeffrey Krenzel" <jkrenzel@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 1:29 PM
>> Subject: [pure-silver] odd, old split-toned (?)
>> print
>>
>>
>>> I have a "how do you do it?" question regarding an
>> old
>>> photograph of my wife's grandfather. The print
>> was
>>> taken/made in Budapest, probably in the 1920's or
>>> 1930's.
>>>
>>> The print shows an older man standing next to a
>> river
>>> and dressed in a suit and holding gloves, a
>> briefcase
>>> and a newspaper in one hand and a cigarette in the
>>> other.
>>>
>>> The print is a 2-inch square, glossy that looks
>> like
>>> it was sepia toned apart from his gloves, hat and
>>> suit, which appear to retain a full range of
>> grays.
>>> The warm toned face and hands makes it looks very
>> much
>>> like a color photograph, which is what my wife
>> always
>>> thought it was. His cold toned gloves are held in
>> his
>>> sepia toned hand and and drape over his sepia
>> toned
>>> briefcase. The only pure whites (although it is
>> hard
>>> to tell as it is a dirty print) are his cigarette
>> and,
>>> perhaps, his newspaper.
>>>
>>> It looks split toned, but I don't see how that
>> would
>>> have been accomplished as there appear to be no
>>> significant differences in the densities of the
>> warm
>>> toned areas and the cold toned areas. If I were
>> going
>>> to reproduce the look of this print I would mask
>> parts
>>> of it with rubber cement and then sepia tone the
>> rest
>>> of it. Alternatively, I would use a small brush
>> to
>>> paint on bleach in selected areas to limit the
>> toning
>>> process, but I have difficulty imagining that
>> anyone
>>> would have gone to the trouble of using either of
>>> these methods for a small snapshot, as opposed to
>> a
>>> posed portrait.
>>>
>>> TIA for any enlightment.
>>>
>> Is it possible its tinted and not toned? Hand
>> tinted
>> miniature portraits were very popular for a long
>> time before
>> color photography. It is also possible to mask a
>> print so
>> that different areas are toned with different
>> toners. Tim
>> Rudman describes this method is detail in his book
>> on
>> printing (The Photographer's Master Printing Course)
>> which I
>> highly recommend. Carrying this out on such a small
>> print
>> would require considerable skill but so would hand
>> tinting.
>>
>> ---
>> Richard Knoppow
>> Los Angeles, CA, USA
>> dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
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