I used to wish my skies weren't so grainy but once I started using PMK I noticed that disappeared, esp. with 120. I can't speak to 35 so much, but with 120 I found that PMK definitely made a difference. Eric --- Richard Knoppow <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shannon Stoney" > <shannonstoney@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 12:48 PM > Subject: [pure-silver] grain and focus > > > > > > I made some 35mm pictures last winter using an > ancient > > Leica and mostly HP5+. Some of the negatives are > pretty > > grainy, even when they're only enlarged to 4x6. > The > > graininess seems to happen in the out of focus > areas, of > > which there are a lot because the aperture was > wide open > > and many of the pictures were taken inside without > a > > flash. When I use this camera outside and > everything's in > > focus, there is usually no grain to speak of. Why > is > > there this relationship between apparent > graininess and > > out of focus areas? > > > > --shannon > > > > > I think this is an optical illusion, the details > of the > image tend to suppress the visibility of the grain. > Examining the negative through a strong magnifier or > using a > grain focuser on your enlarger should demonstrate > this. > Now also grain varies somewhat with the density > of the > image being greater for higher density. This is one > reason > for the old recommendation to make negatives as thin > as > possible while retaining good shadow detail. > I have not used any HP 5 for a long time and > don't > rememeber what its like but, if grain is an issue > you might > try either Tri-X (ISO-400) or 400T-Max both of which > are > quite fine grain for film of this speed. Xtol is a > good > developer for both for minimizing grain without > loosing > speed. > > --- > Richard Knoppow > Los Angeles, CA, USA > dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > ============================================================================================================= > To unsubscribe from this list, go to > www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the > same e-mail address and password you set-up when you > subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.