Well, I agree and disagree. I agree the scans aren't perfect (whose are?). What I disagree about is it looks like the negatives have very little contrast, and no amount of playing with the scanning or PS parameters is going to change that. The fact that the histogram is "all bunched up at one end" seems to suggest that all your negative's data is bunched up; i.e., no contrast in the negative. Probably because there was little contrast in the scene (except between the vegetation of the scene and the sky). You could of course boost the contrast in the vegetative part of the scene by shooting and developing at +2 (doesn't look like +1 would cut it here; I'm not even sure +2 could give you what you previsualized). Zone system is great for stuff like this; lots of fun and fun results. Bottom line; low contrast negative, low contrast scan, low contrast everything... IMHO, Bob "Nicholas O. Lindan" <nolindan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: "Shannon Stoney" >I scanned the flat negatives and put them on my flickr site: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/shannonstoney/ > I didn't do anything to them to "fix" them in photoshop. These are > just straight scans. To begin ... the scans are bad. You don't have information in the scan for the vegetation, it's all driven out by setting the white point to the sky. Scan only for the vegetation in the foreground. Set the white point to the lightest highlight in the veg. and the black for the blackest shadow (or to the unexposed film). Let the sky and the far trees go where ever they go, don't try and keep them. Now go into PS and play with curves to get the image you want. This will give you an idea of what you will need to do in the darkroom. Do the same for the sky and trees: scan for and adjust just for this part of the image - this will give you and idea of the burn and required burn contrast for that part of the image. Nicholas O. Lindan Cleveland Engineering Design, LLC Cleveland, Ohio 44121 ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. Bob Adler Palo Alto, CA http://www.raflexions.com