How pure are the chemicals your are using to compound your developer? I mention this because there have been some comments recently about fog with certain formulas. Commercial grade triethanolamine can contain 15% diethanolamine. This will raise the pH of developers made with it above what would be expected. This can cause higher fog levels and contrast and density problems. Diethanolamine has an ammonia like odor and its presence should be easily detectable since triethanolamine should be odorless. If you have any doubts about the purity or are experiencing problems you might also ask the supplier. BTW, the grade supplied by The Chemistry Store is 99% pure. Another chemical where source is important is ethylene or propylene glycol. Using antifreeze as a substitute is not a good idea as it usually contains other ingredients (such as rust inhibitors) which may not be photographically neutral. One should always be careful when using any technical grade chemical for photographic purposes. Test any new supply thoroughly before using it for critical photos. Some companies such as Arm & Hammer and US Borax post MSDS's for their products which are very useful for determining suitability for photographic purposes. Check for iron and other metal impurity limits. Jerry ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.