Apologies, I missed this post and asked the question that you answered here already. On 26/11/04 5:55 pm, "Richard Knoppow" <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christopher Woodhouse" <chris.woodhouse@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 9:40 AM > Subject: [pure-silver] When is Sulphide toner not sulphide > toner? > > >> Whilst it is well understood that sulphide toners protect >> images from >> deterioration, when it comes to the odourless sepia >> toners, like >> thiocarbimide, I'm assuming that the end product is also >> silver sulphide. >> >> If it is silver sulphide, which we all know has brown >> tone, why then, if I >> tone a fixed and washed print in thiocarbimide, before it >> is bleached, does >> it have a marked effect upon subsequent bleaching and yet >> has NO visual >> effect on the image? >> >> >> -- >> Regards Chris Woodhouse >> >> > I am not sure why this is but the same thing happens when > using sodium sulfide. If the print is soaked in the sulfide > bath and rinsed before bleaching it affects the final color. > The color of the toned image is not due to its being > sulfide but rather to the effect the sulfiding has on the > shape and size of the silver particles, which in turn is > affected by the orginal crystal morphology. As an example > polysulfide toners tend to shift microfilm toward blue > rather than yellow. AFAIK this has no effect on the > protective properties of the toning, but there is no > research data to show this. The problem with all odd toning > processes is that one must assume certain things about it. > Certain toners have been tested in accelerated aging tests > so their effects are known with some degree of certainty, > for others its partially guesswork. > > --- > Richard Knoppow > Los Angeles, CA, USA > dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > ============================================================================== > =============================== > To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your > account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) > and unsubscribe from there. > -- Regards Chris Woodhouse ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.