A 3006 Jobo tank will do 5 sheets so you wouldn't gain much. On top of it, last time I checked, used 3006 drums were selling for over $600 used on ebay which originally cost $200-ish. Clients throw me all types of film in various formats other than what I use for my own work, hence my issues with finding times, temps and dilutions. I do keep a Filemaker database of mine and client times and temps but there's always someone w/a different format or film type wanting to do PHD with a film that hasn't got a good starting point posted anywhere. Some of these films aren't exotic at all and I remember having a hard time finding a good listing for TMX 35mm. Eventually used 2:2:100 for 8.5 mins @72 for anyone out there in the same boat. I use speakers too but sometimes it makes it hard to hear the voice in my head.... :D ________________________________ From: BOB KISS <bobkiss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 10:57 AM Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Kodak sells sensor business DEAR ERIC, I tray process up to 4 sheets of 8X10 at a time in PMK with no problems and, unless you have a VERY big Jobo, I don’t think it will handle more than that. Given this, I never bothered buying a Jobo and stuck with PMK. I also use Pyrocat HD sometimes for my other subjects shot with 8X10 (and smaller formats) and have loved the results both for scanning and printing with PT-PD. I agree with you that Pyro HD seems to yield more printing contrast than is apparent to the PMK experienced eye. I agree that there is sizeable confusion over the dilutions but, as always, why not narrow down your favorite film stock(s) to your very favorites and “Test, baby, test!” different dilutions/times till you get what gives you your best prints. Lastly, I have speakers in the darkroom on which I play on-line baroque music or Chopin so I don’t want the sound of a processing machine interrupting my enjoyment and I am in hurry to finish any faster! ;-)) CHEERS! BOB ________________________________ From:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eric Nelson Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 11:42 AM To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Kodak sells sensor business How do you process your sheet film? Do you use PMK in trays? I switched a while back to pyrocat hd as it is recommended for rotary, which I use, and am happy with it, although I never made a direct comparison w/PMK. Haven't run any 8x10 in any pyro formula in some time but experienced unevenness using a Jobo & PMK years ago as well as with 120 films. I would dump and refill w/new developer 1/2-way through the process for the oxidation, presoak etc. I used to process w/PMK with the original recommendation of using the used developer as an after bath after fixing, which is no longer recommended, and it created an extreme blockage of UV for palladium et al. I've not tried a pyrocat hd neg w/palladium. The one downside of pyrocat is there's no centralized, authoritative source of dev. times online that I've found and the application of 1:1:100 vs 2:2:100 dilutions has never been clear to me. Some sites I see 2:2:100 being applied for silver and others I saw saying that 2:2:100 was only for 'alt'. e ________________________________ From:BOB KISS <bobkiss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 7:49 AM Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Kodak sells sensor business DEAR ALL, My book BARBADOS CHATTEL HOUSES which will be launched here in Barbados on Nov 29th has more than 115 fine art b&w photos, 99% made with 8X10 Tri-x processed in PMK. When I was about to restock the 8X10 that I used to get in 50 sheet boxes, I was told that it was only available in 10 sheet boxes driving the price way above the grant money that I had received. So, I tried Ilford HP5 PLUS and got some lovely results in PMK. It printed well in platinum-palladium (the medium in which prints of the images from the book are available) and scanned beautifully to create the file that the printer used for the book. As my previous incarnation as an advertising and fashion photog I had always been a Kodak fan due more to their quality control than the quality of their films. They were reliable and, given the financial (and reputation) risks involved in shoots, I just couldn't afford a problem. I do recall the time that I foolishly tried some Ilford film (without testing it first: Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea culpa maxima!) to shoot a VIP from the Metropolitan Opera. The Ilford Tech Rep had given me the film to try out as he was hoping to get some business. Because they had changed printers on the medium format backing paper, there were some printing effluents left in the 120 backing paper that desensitized the film in specific areas and resulted in the frame numbers etc showing up on my negs as reduced density areas making the negs unprintable. I never touched Ilford film again until I could afford to risk losing personal photos. However, I have had excellent results with the 8X10 HP5 PLUS. And I am thinking of getting those negs out of storage and seeing if I can fix them in Frotoshop. What a surprise for that VIP...30 years later!!! CHEERS! BOB __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6622 (20111111) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6622 (20111111) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com