On Saturday 05 February 2005 12:00, Dave Hornford wrote: > > Apparently Forte was selling the knock-offs to keep volume up (they seem > to have minimum buys of inputs or minimum production runs). Alas, > selling at or about cost of production doesn't leave money on the table > to pay the corporations other bills. The problem is the other choice is to throw out the extra product. Or to not make any product at all. > while ago). Only having spot shortages months after both stopped/cut > production tells us that there was a massive product oversupply. Ilford IIRC was shut down for about 1 week. Not very long. > > Kodak seems to have had both the financial reserves to meet this as well > as a better understanding of sales into & out-of the channel (as a > manufactuer you need to know both what your distribution channel is > buying & selling lest you get caught with a quarter or two of inventory > in the channel. Kodak's financial reports talked about paper & chemicals > being de-stocked in the channel (firms that would order 20 cases and > keep 20 in inventory were ordering 10 with an eye to keeping 5-15 in > inventory) They also seem not to have gotten into the game of knock-offs. > > Agfa seems to have followed Kodak, as well as having to make a > transition as part of a larger firm to a managmenet buy-out of the > photographic didvision. Agfa is pretty big in the private label C-41 film. I think they also supply master rolls to others for cutting. Tura? Kodak last year announced they intended to enter the private label consumer film market. It's only a short step from that to private label B&W products. Nick ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.