Shannon If all the world were grey, it would be much simpler to figure out the filter factors. The problem is that your meter is not smart, it wants to always give you a medium gray colour. If you are photographing a subject which is fall foliage against a bright blue sky, and meter the yellow trees first without, and then with your yellow filter in front of your meter, you are likely to see little difference. At the same time, if you meter the sky with and then without your filter, you will see much more difference - which difference represents your filter factor - how do you figure your exposure? What Ansel is saying is that you need to figure out what you want out of the scene - presumably you are using the filter to do something in particular - increase contrast between the trees and the sky - how do you want each of these to appear on the paper - are you going for detail in the foliage and want to get that into the middle of your tonal range? - Do you want the trees to look white against a black background of sky? I tend to ignore the 'filter factors', I use a spot meter, through the filter material that I am going to use to get a measurement of that part of the scene that I am concerned about placing in a particular zone and go from there. Mark --- Shannon Stoney <sstoney@xxxxxxx> wrote: > My confusion about filters has been greatly > clarified in part by > reading Ansel Adams's The Negative. There is a great > section in there > about filters, with examples of prints from > unfiltered and filtered > negatives, showing how the filter affects things, > with commentary by > Ansel. Highly recommended for anybody else who is > as ignorant as I > am about filters. > > Apparently it takes some time and experience to > figure out how to use > them, and he recommends making two exposures, one > with and one > without, so you can learn to visualize the effects > of the filters. I > am starting just with the simple #8 yellow one. He > also says that > the filter factor for that one is 2. I think I > understand now why > that didn't seem plausible to me at first: it's > because my meter > doesn't really "read" the yellow filter very well. > > I think I am going to just assume that the 2X factor > is right and see > what happens. > > --shannon > ============================================================================================================= > To unsubscribe from this list, go to > www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the > same e-mail address and password you set-up when you > subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.