I made an effort to use a daylight CLF bulb. Upon testing the Ilford filter set that is design for an incandescent bulb I found the CLF bulbs spectrum was incorrect for correct filter responds. I attempted to correct this with minus blue color compensation filters. I finally abandoned the project because the paper grade chart looked terrible, the plots were very uneven. The CLF was left on in focus mode to keep it warm and turned off just before placing paper and exposure. It was obvious that Ilford VC-4 paper was designed for an incandescent light source. I have successfully used cold lights designed for photo graphic paper. Most of the VC cold lights I have used required some adjustment in exposure when changing paper grade settings. The Aristo VC4500 required the least exposure correction. To reach grades above 3 I needed to reduce the out put of the green tube with the auxiliary rheostat. The low intensity of the VC4500 required longer exposures than my 500 watt Durst incandescent condenser enlarger or Zone VI first generation VC cold light. Jonathan Ayers [mail1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] _____ From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of BOB KISS Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 10:57 AM To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [pure-silver] ANYONE TRY THIS SILLY IDEA? DEAR LIST, Has anyone ever tried using a "watt saver" fluorescent bulb in their enlargers? The issues and considerations: 1) Why bother? To allow all the advantages of efficiency and less heat (no negative popping etc) while using your condenser lenses.for those who like condenser enlargers. Commercially available cold light heads are predominantly diffusion sources. 2) All fluorescent bulbs are "hybrid" i.e., a blend of line spectrum and continuous spectrum. Sure, but then again, so are all cold light heads! 3) Color? Watt savers are available in the usual cool white and also a warmer color. I own both. Again, with hybrid spectra, one never knows what it will be. 4) The color spectrum will be less of an issue with graded paper than with VC/Multigrade paper. 5) Most watt savers are spiral tubes and may very well cause unevenness on the paper plane. True, but I have some that are in the usual frosted envelope. They are not as perfect as the "opal" frosting of enlarger bulbs. Yes, I know that condenser lenses focus the light source into the entrance pupil of the enlarging lens and the enlarging lens focuses the negative onto the easel. But I wonder if the frosted bulbs will be even enough. Hmmm. This may all be fanciful speculation but then again, who know. CHEERS! BOB PS: Just so you know, I swear by my cold light diffuse source. I am just curious about the idea above. Please check my website: <http://www.bobkiss.com/> http://www.bobkiss.com/ "Live as if you are going to die tomorrow. Learn as if you are going to live forever". Mahatma Gandhi __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6151 (20110525) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com