But let's say I mark several sections--At 06:46 AM
1/11/2009, you wrote:
The only problem I have here is that in my case, cuts for a radio feature. the transfer software, unless something has changed with it, only installs on systems with a PTR1 or PTR2 connected to them. Hence, this tool does not seem available to new owners of the PWill the new file come out as one large file or several small onesocket exclusively. Since I?ve sold my PTR2, I?ll lose it if my computer crashes. The audio export f? eature is a handy one.
Dean
Thanks.
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From: ptr1-users-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [ mailto:ptr1-users-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jamie Cuthbertson
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 5:33 AM
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Subject: RE: Evaluation update
Gary and Daveed,
Further to what Gary says, if you use the Plextalk Recording Software that comes with both the PTR1 and PTR2, you can first of all do your editing and then, by performing an audio export, you can end up with a new .WAV or .MP3 file which only contains the audio that you want.
The audio export feature takes account of all the editing that you've done and will create a unique audio file for each section in the recording.
Once this has been done properly, you can then pass on the files for playback on other devices e.g. an ordinary MP3 player.
Hope this helps.
Jamie
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From: ptr1-users-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [ mailto:ptr1-users-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gary Schindler
Sent: 10 January 2009 20:48
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Subject: Re: Evaluation update
I don't know a work around other than transferring the main file and editing it on a computer. this is the only drawback I see to this machine. you can make excellent edits on the PT-1 but unless you have another daisy machine to play them on, it isn't much good when you want to provide persons with split files who don't have a daisy player.
- ----- Original Message -----
- From: Daveed Mandell
- To: ptr1-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 3:16 PM
- Subject: Re: Evaluation update
- Yes, yoyu bring up a very important ppoint. I need to be able to obtain files in .wav form with the edits I make on the Plextalk. Regrettably, Plextalk doesn't allow this, and it should. Is there any way at all around this problem? Thanks.
- ---I don't want to dub material from one machine onto my computer. That's now really passee and shouldn't be necessary at all.
- Thanks.
- --Daveed--
- At 03:16 AM 1/9/2009, you wrote:
- I would like to add that the built-in microphone on the pocket Plextalk does a superb job, better than I expected. my wife was in another room of the house, and she was picked up like she was in the same room.
- (caution) when using the audio setting when recording, make sure there is enough line level to keep the recorder recording. I connected the PT-1 to the board out on my churches mixer/PA system. it is always weak no matter where you set the pot. what happened was that I got 30 seconds of the choir practicing,. the machine stopped recording, and eventually powered off.
- never owning a plextalk of any kind before, I found that when you make your edits from one large MP3 or Wave file, the SMIL files are made, but the MP3 or Wave file remains in tact when you build a book when you make several recordings within a title, all the files remain the same but the smil files direct how the title should play. I haven't figured out how to record my precise edits onto an audio compact disc other than recording from the plextalk to the computer using the sound card, using Sound forge or Goldwave.
- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Cuta" <cuta@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ptr1-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 12:37 AM
- Subject: Evaluation update
- Now, after 4 weeks of use and comments from other users, I have some
- additions and corrections to make to my previous appraisel of the PT
- Pocket.
- * Editing is not limited to adding & removing heading marks. You can
- delete individdual titles or individual sections or any sequential
- group of sections within a dasy recorded file.
- * movement by time starts at 5 seconds and ramps up as you hold down the
- advance butten. (I had reported that it was initially 10 seconds)
- * I confused some readers with my discussion of the need for an
- accessible quick start guide. The manual does come on CD in both word
- and plain text format -- you just need a computer to read it unless you
- already know how to startup and begin using the PT Pocket.
- * As far as I know there are as yet no user keys available to make
- possible the playback of protected reading materials from either the
- Library of congress or from Recordings for the Blind.
- * I have performed extensive tests with the audio inputs and outputs and
- find the associated electronics to be either comperable or superior to
- those in both of the previous Plextalk models. Music reproduction is
- excellent.
- * the PT Pocket permits you to choose to manually control recording
- level even when using the internal microphone. (on previous models
- manual recording level was restricted to use with external inputs.
- * time compression during playback is really not functional for much of
- the externally provided material that I have tested. However I have
- taken the speed setting all of the way up to level 8 when obtaining
- internal information (the 5 key on the keypad) with very
- satisfactory results.
- Previous evaluation:
- Well I have had my Pocket a week now and it is one beautiful little
- marvel. Here is a preliminary short appraisal. First, let me mention
- a couple of other products that you are more familiar with -- the
- Plextalk PTR 2 and the Humanware Stream. I heard that as well as being
- a player the Pocket was going to incorporate most of the more
- powerful recording capability of the PTR 2. In short , it does. And
- the package is smaller in all 3 dimensions than the Stream. It feels
- silky and extremely sensual just to hold this diminutive little item
- in your hand.
- It is a powerful recorder with all of the same recording modes that you
- are used to on the PTR2. You can enable or disable auto recording level
- and while recording you can choose to enable monitoring of the signal or
- audible level annunciation on the fly. You can also add headings on the
- fly or after the fact. While recording you can monitor battery level,
- confirm that you are recording (not paused) and obtain time recorded and
- time remaining information. Editing is very limited, basically to
- adding and removing heading marks . However, it features two powerful
- new processing options that should compliment its ability to move files
- from SD to thumb drive and from thumb drive to SD. These permit you to
- process files that you create so they will play on other players and to
- process material from other recorders for editing on the pocket. I
- have yet to explore these features but they look promising.
- The unit has Only a single input jack but it is switchible for either
- microphone or line level. I have always been annoyed by the input
- characteristics of the preamp and built in microphone on my PTR 2. No
- such problem exists on the pocket. In fact I love the built in
- microphone.
- Playback on the Pocket can be navigated by character, word, phrase
- paragraph, book mark, heading levels, time and a new method by
- percentage of the total length. Of course which of these options is
- available to you is predetermined by the format of the file you are
- reading. The pocket features both a built in male and female text to
- speech voice. The female is the default and it is excellent.
- The buttons on the Pocket are not too small -- its been cold out and I
- have been able to operate it while wearing leather gloves. Speaking of
- buttons and switches it has 24 just 5 less than the PTR 2. Even so an
- operation like adding a heading mark to an existing file which has a
- dedicated key on the PTR 2 takes exactly the same number of keystrokes
- on the Pocket even though the option is selected off a menu. This is
- great engineering!
- Time to list desired improvements. The most obvious is the lack of a
- case. It comes with a pouch but it really needs a skin to protect it
- while it is being used. Also, when you receive it you get only a
- print quick start
- guide and a CD. Its up to you as a totally blind person to struggle
- through getting started. And if you do not have a computer you are kind
- of stuck. Of course the lack of a box running Microsoft's finest is
- not one of my personal deficiencies but I resisted reading the manual
- on the computer -- I was too eager to start using the pocket. As soon
- as I found someone to assist me with the quick start guide I copied the
- manual from the CD to a thumb drive and from the thumb drive to the
- pockets SD card. A Braille quick start guide or cassette guide like the
- one I received with my PTR 2 from IRTI would be a great improvement. A
- feature that I appreciated in version 2 of the PTR software was an
- annunciation of available recording time that changed respectively as
- you cycled through the various recording qualities/modes. On the Pocket
- this has been replaced with the respective bandwidth spec. This is much
- less functional and of little use to the average user. Navigation by
- time on the PTR2 can be set to 1 minute and ten minute increments which
- I have grown to love. On the Pocket it can not be fixed at a specific
- value and instead changes on the fly but always starts at ten seconds
- and increases as you hold down the control. I find this a little
- cumbersome. Lastly the Pocket lacks the ability to create page marks.
- I actually regularly use this feature on my PTR 2. Not for page
- numbering but as another powerful way of marking information for future
- reference. It is a reference mark that is saved when you backup.
- Price $360 or a little less.
- Frank cuta
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