[pskmail] Re: Clients

  • From: Pär Crusefalk <per@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: pskmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 08:56:53 +0200

Hi Glenn,

I looked at the link there, thanks. Looks to me like one OM could not find a server to connect to (which has been the case for a while in the US) and the other OM used a Mac. I know it can be installed on a Mac as I have tried it when I was able to loan a Mac for a few minutes. But, there is no installer there and if we want Mac users we really need to improve that situation. It's a tough situation as I have no Mac to try installers on (volunteers are most welcome).

If Cygwin works for you then I think you should stay there. More things I'd like to comment on here but I'm at work and people are waiting for me at a meeting...

73 de Per, sm0rwo


Glenn Roeser skrev 2012-05-23 20:19:
Hello Per,
Here is where I read those comments that I mentioned:
http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?332060-PSKMail-and-flDigi-virtual-TNC

I for one really like pskmail, and I would really enjoy seeing it grow in popularity. I agree with you as far as using the soundcard rather than a Pactor box. Mainly because the cost is out of reach for me and many others as well, plus it is a lot to carry on a hiking trip or camping trip. That being said, I am truly amazed at how many users there are using Winlink, Airmail, and so on. I'm sure that the soundcard program Winmor has helped tremendously with it's growth and popularity. I am a big fan of using the narrow modes, why use 2 - 3 kc if it isn't necessary? Cygin has enabled me to get pskmail server going, I will using andLinux if you feel that it would be better for pskmail, but as it stands I have no problems with my server using the 1.5.8 Client, except the "Wrong Password" issue. I would like to move to another band to create more opportunity for stations closer to me to use the server. I tried 80 meters, but I was asked to leave because I was interfering with a CW traffic net. In this area it is very difficult to find a frequency on that band that is not in use by one of those nets. Except for those being used by the Winklink systems, nobody challenges them, ever.
Thank you for your response.
Very 73, Glenn WB2LMV



On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Pär Crusefalk <per@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:per@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

    Hi Glenn,

    First of all I just want to state that I know that the system works, I
    see the traffic flowing through my server and I find it very
    useful when
    I'm away sailing or out and about somewhere. When the connection
    is poor
    the arq connection can behave the way you say here. I know I had
    that a
    while when I had noise reducing DSP engaged in my transceiver, also
    other hams have had identification turned on and that made the link
    behave poorly. So, there can be simple reasons for what you are
    seeing.
    Also, are these issues related to running the server within windows?

    Having said that I know that we have had a high development speed
    and I
    think we need to better state what a stable system should be using.
    The version 2 client is coming along nicely but I still don't see
    it as
    a stable client as it is lacking things and there are bugs in there.
    But, it has so far been labeled alpha.

    To me the stable client to use is 1.5.8. It has been tested quite
    a lot
    now and I know it works. I have not had issues with the "Wrong
    password"
    but I will try to recreate that issue in bench testing this weekend.
    I will do a practical demo of pskmail during field day this
    saturday so
    I may not have time for testing before next week.

    I have not seen any discussions where someone has failed to make it
    work. Would be great to connect with these hams and hear about their
    issues, can you point me to where you saw that?

    I think pskmail is a real easy sell, who wants to spend thousands of
    dollars for an ugly modem when it's not needed...

    73 de Per, sm0rwo



    tis 2012-05-22 klockan 08:55 -0400 skrev Glenn Roeser:
    > I hope that this email does not upset anyone, and I don't mean to be
    > rude in any way. After observing time after time after time. Clients
    > will connect to a server with the intent to upload or download an
    > email, or use one of the other functions that the server provides,
    > only not to be able to get done what they were trying to do. The
    > client and the server will talk back and forth until the server will
    > go into it's sending polls mode. While it is in poll sending
    mode the
    > server will change to various modes trying to get the client to
    > accomplish the transfer of 100% data until it runs out of the
    > prescribed amount of retries. This happens with the client still
    > connected, because the client is still answering the server, with no
    > results, so I know an early "abort" had not been sent.
    > I know that my server does everything that it is supposed to do
    > because I have tested all it's functions myself. The only flaw
    is that
    > once in a while I will get a "Wrong Password" error message while
    > trying to download mail headers.
    > I had sent an email to one of my friends the step by step method
    that
    > I use with the server and he still was unable to get results. I
    > watched him going at Bob's (KB2PNM) server yesterday, over and over
    > and over, without any luck.
    > I have read in various forums that hams have tried pskmail and have
    > given up because."I just couldn't get it to work." I'm not sure
    if the
    > intention of the authors are to provide a program for a close knit
    > group of campers, and boaters, or if the authors intent is for
    general
    > ham population to use an enjoy this fantastic program
    > and therefore the number of pskmail users would increase. As it
    stands
    > now pskmail is a very hard sell.
    > It seems to me that as things stand now, the client is just too
    > complicated for the average ham to use or there are bugs in the
    > software that I am not aware of. I have not been able to get any
    of my
    > friends, and these are hams that are running digital modes
    without any
    > difficulty, to become successful using pskmail.
    > Wishing all very 73, Glenn WB2LMV






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