Re: vs 2010 jaws project
- From: Alex Midence <alex.midence@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 15:02:17 -0500
Hi, Ken,
Have you had any problems in the c++ environment? Specifically, using
the route jaws to pc cursor command and then using the jaws cursor to
move around on the screen. What happens when you make a typo and try
to go back and correct it?
The reason I ask is that I am wondering if certain language
environments work better than others. I believe it was Katherine Moss
who posted several times on this list that she uses vs 2010 all the
time with c# without any problems. Since you just used it with c# and
didn't seem to have any trouble, whereas I tried it with c++ and had
pain and misery ... I'm curious and a bit suspicious of vs2010. I
believe the fellows interested in downloading it just now were trying
to code in it using c++ and got similar results to me.
Thanks.
Alex M
On 10/29/10, Rick Watson <rwatson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Good morning listers,
> this seems only to work with jaws 11. not jfw 12.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rick Watson
> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 9:41 AM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: vs 2010 jaws project
>
> something I have found out...
> whenever you go into vs2010 if the first window is normal size (not
> maximized)
> Menus are visible at that point.
> rick
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Perry
> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 8:18 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: vs 2010 jaws project
>
>
>
> Ok I just installed and created my first C# program in VS2010. Note this is
> not my first C# program for those who don't know me but at any rate. The
> menus work fine for me Rick so I would need to know where you are. I am
> using Jaws 11 though and I have no scripts loaded It might be that the
> scripts are broken so badly that they are causing problems. I will also
> point out That the intelesense seems to work out of the box with no scripts.
> It isn't perfect I can see that it could be made to be much more chatty but
> I was able to type application. And then a menu of choices popped up. I
> then arrowed to something hit tab and there it was. Now I didn't test
> parameters I am betting those won't work but the point is we might want to
> take the scripts and start over. I don't mean write them all over because I
> bet the forms stuff works fine but it might be a good idea to see what we
> can do from ground up on the code editor. I just ran around in the code
> editor and it seems to work. Of course it doesn't have indentation
> announcement and stuff because there are no scripts. I am playing with this
> while I write this so I am not sure the problem.
>
> Have you tried it with Jaws 11? I can't try it with 12 till I get my copy
> and I am not going to install the demo.
>
> Ken
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rick Watson
> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:20 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: vs 2010 jaws project
>
> Good afternoon,
> I have it on windows classic as the theme. How do I set the windows style?
> or does the classic setting take care of style as well.
>
> thanks
> rick
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Perry
> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:30 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: vs 2010 jaws project
>
> Yes but if you don't have it on windows classic they won't read in vs does
> yalt-f read if not it's your window style.
>
> Ken
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rick Watson
> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:11 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: vs 2010 jaws project
>
> It is jaws 12 with windows 7 64-bit.
> menus read fine in other apps but not in vs2010.
>
> rick
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Perry
> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 12:35 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: vs 2010 jaws project
>
> What jaws are you using what windows are you using. Is it 64 bit or not
> etc. . Make sure you have windows classic display schema
>
> Ken
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rick Watson
> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:39 AM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: vs 2010 jaws project
>
> Good morning listers,
> I have downloaded the 2008 scripts and have installed them into my system so
> that they activate whenever vs2010 is launched.
> just a quick question, what causes the menus to not be read in jaws?
> thanks
> rick
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Perry
> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:29 AM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: vs 2010 jaws project
>
> Well I want to point out it was us on this list that made those current
> scripts. All you have to do is fix them. Unfortunately like some of the
> other original script makers I just don't have the time to do it right now
> it's time for others who need it to step up. Here is some hints.
>
> First learn to use the home row now known as the script utility. The new
> key press for this is Microsoft-insert-key pad minus, If you haven't used
> it you need to learn it if you're going to play with the scripts.
>
>
> Second while I didn't use it some of the script writers find windig by Jamal
> a very good program to find out what is on the screen., I know it's on
> Jamal's site I just don't know the address so maybe he will post it.
>
> Back up you current scripts or just keep an install of the current 2005
> scripts. That way when you screw them up so bad you can just reinstall.
>
> The big thing is though just dive in. Get the 2005 scripts compile them and
> make sure they are loading by doing insert q in visual studio 2010. If they
> are loading then do insert - f2 and bring up the script editor and read
> through the current scripts. After that you should have an idea of what to
> change to make the current one work.
>
> I would bet the intelesense code is what is causing the problem in the code
> editor in 2005 I had to do a lot of strange window crap to make it work.
> Then I think Jamal did some changes to it to. I am betting some of the new
> intelesense stuff is much easier to script for but the old code is probably
> making a mess out of it.
>
>
> So anyway I guess what I am saying is the only way these scripts are going
> to get modified if someone here has the time to do it. I have 2010
> installed but I am working on a project outside of VS right now and I can't
> promise I will be back into it till after next summer and who the heck knows
> what Microsoft will do between now and then.
>
> Ken
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rick Watson
> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 8:54 AM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: vs 2010 jaws project
>
> Good morning listers,
> Just to add to this discussion, I have been trying to get this to work and
> we will also need to focus on menus as well as designers.
> Not just the code editor.
>
> Rick
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jamal Mazrui
> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 8:46 AM
> To: Justin Daubenmire; programmingblind; Program-l
> Subject: Re: vs 2010 jaws project
>
> Hi Justin,
> I am hereby copying the ProgrammingBlind and Program-L lists in the hope
> that others interested in the project will get in touch with you.
>
> Jamal
>
> -- Original Message --
>
> > Hi Jamal,
> >
> > For jaws to work with visual studio 2010 an add-in is going to need
> to be programmed by the community.
> >
> > I would be willing to manage this project if we have enough people
> wanting to help.
> >
> > We would need to setup a project on www.codeplex.com and I could do
> that for us.
> >
> > Then participants would need to install TortoiseSVN to perform
> commits to the repository.
> >
> > The plug-in would be an open source effort and I'd prefer to program
> it in c#.net which is just personal preference though.
> >
> > Here are a few links to information that could get us all started.
> >
> > Visual Studio 2010 Editor Samples
> > Several samples showing how to extend the new WPF-based editor in
> Visual Studio 2010.
> > http://editorsamples.codeplex.com/
> >
> > How to: Control the Code Editor (Visual C#)
> > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms228776.aspx
> >
> > If anyone is interested please have them contact me directly at
> jdaubenm@xxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Justin
> >
> >
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