Hello Two underscores before and after the method name means it's a built in class and you are calling a method within that class. Two underscores before an attribute and only two before, none after, means it's a private attribute. Example: __self.atribute=attribute means it's a private attribute. Def __init__(self,): means its built in. Edward -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 5:34 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: python: what's with the underscores? So the double underscore means both a constructor and built-in method? Can I not have a private non-built-in method, or a public built-in method? Have a great day, Alex New email address: mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "edward" <personal.edward@xxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 17:31 Subject: RE: python: what's with the underscores? > Hello > 1. python definitely has constructor methods. Syntax is > def__init__(self,paramitors separated by commas): > In the init constructor method you need to of course define your > attributes. > Syntax is self.name of attributes=name of parameter. > > 2. I am not sure why you need self. Its used but I think most don't know > why. It may be only used in methods in a class, and or when you are > referencing a attribute or method in the same class. Maybe someone else > can > elaborate on this because I would also like to know. I use self but it > doesn't really get in the way and it doesn't point to a parameter as far > as > I know. > 3. two underscores before an attribute make the attribute private. Syntax > __self.atribute=attribute. Likewise, two underscores before and after a > method name signify a built in python method such as __init and __str__. > -----Original Message----- > From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Hall > Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 5:14 PM > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: python: what's with the underscores? > > Okay, but (A) I did not think Python had constructor methods and (B) why > do > I always see methodName(self): like in your example? > > > Have a great day, > Alex > New email address: mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "edward" <personal.edward@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 17:11 > Subject: RE: python: what's with the underscores? > > >> Two underscores signify either a constructor method or a built in method >> I >> think. Like the str method. If you want to define string formatting >> with >> your class its defined by two underscores before and after the method >> name. >> example __str__(self): >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Hall >> Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 3:58 PM >> To: Blind Programming List >> Subject: python: what's with the underscores? >> >> In python, why are some method names surrounded by two underscores? Even >> some filenames have these two underscores, though I imagine that is more >> of >> a convention than anything else. What do the underscores mean, if >> anything? >> >> >> Have a great day, >> Alex >> New email address: mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx >> >> __________ >> View the list's information and change your settings at >> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >> >> __________ >> View the list's information and change your settings at >> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >> > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind