Yep this seems to be the case. I'm confused... :) I read Julian Smart's article on accessibility in WX located at: http://www.wxwidgets.org/docs/tutorials/access.htm but in the build I have the appropriate value is set to 0 and it seems to have no effect. This is not important to be honest I was just satisfying a curiosity. __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind