Well, the menu system doesn't get activated by something like just the alt key - you have to hit something like alt + F to activate the file menu and then move cursor left and right to explore other menus, but the primary thing is that, in something like a new PHP file, I don't seem to be able to view any source, markup, etc. Also, when I tried to get it to create a new PHP file in a custom path, under the \wamp\www\newSite folder, on my hard drive, it didn't seem to pleased with that...? This is on my windows XP machine, and using jaws 12 - will try it out on the other windows7 machine just now, and maybe try it with NVDA as well, but anyway. Stay well Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' ----- Original Message ----- From: black ares To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 6:17 AM Subject: Re: Sort of looking into eclipse for first time what problem do you encounter? ----- Original Message ----- From: Jacob Kruger To: ProgrammingBlind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 1:40 AM Subject: Sort of looking into eclipse for first time Although might be able to find info in mailing list archives, thought it might be something relatively simple, but if looking into eclipse for first time, and have made sure have JRE installed, as well as a version of JAB, what else should I do off-hand to make any of the eclipse environments seem usable at all...? Specifically looked at the PHP and javascript versions, but anyway... TIA Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5627 (20101117) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5627 (20101117) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com