Hello, Ken had recommended that I get the rc compiler from goasm which I have done, and it should work out pretty good, but I'm also after a tutorial on how to write resource files by hand, including what can go in the files, and the structure of a resource file. I just don't want to use any GUI to do any of the Windows API programming. . Sorry I didn't respond to the original thread, but I accidentally deleted the message. If anyone has any helpful info I'd appreciate it. Steve D.