Hey does it do Redneck. I really miss installing Redhat in the Redneck
language.
Ken
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From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Greer
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 11:15 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Price per Performance was Re: Seeking possible tasks for
Dueling Operating Systems at CSUN
From what I know of it, Orca is also able to display in different
languages
and is also scriptable.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Hofstader" <chris.hofstader@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 6:26 AM
Subject: RE: Price per Performance was Re: Seeking possible tasks for
Dueling Operating Systems at CSUN
Jim,
My answer was a bit brash as well. In the work I'm doing with BSO on
the delivery of accessible instructional materials,
multi-lingualism/culturism is at the forefront of almost all of my
thoughts (look at the open source AMIS, pronounced ahmee like the
plural for friend in French and not Amos as in Amos Otis, the former
center fielder for the KC Royals) Daisy player and the huge number of
language packs available for it. Thus, Kurdish, Urdo and all the rest
are often the top priority for many of our users, especially the
really young ones.
cdh
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From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of James
Panes
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 5:01 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Price per Performance was Re: Seeking possible tasks for
Dueling Operating Systems at CSUN
Hi BC,
Perhaps my choice of an example was unfortunate.
The point I was trying to make is that some features come with too
high a price. A screen reader that can speak 100 languages or more is
no more useful to me than a car that can do 200 mph is useful for most
people.
When adding esoteric features causes the price of AT to be so high
that most
people can not buy it, that is no different than the package not being
available in your prefered language.
Fortunately, JAWS has utilities so that the user can expand its
capabilities. This should, and does go heavily in its favour any time
that businesses and individuals are making a purchase decision.
Regards,
Jim
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Hofstader" <chris.hofstader@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 11:05 AM
Subject: RE: Seeking possible tasks for Dueling Operating Systems at
CSUN
It is irrelevant to *you* if it is available in Kurdish but I'm
certain some people blinded by Turkish cluster bombs won't care if it
works in English.
Price, for now, must be considered with a much lower priority than
depth and breadth of feature set as an underpowered screen reader
causes people to gain false hope and lose real jobs.
In an upcoming blog post, I will be announcing that I will no longer
work on AT that doesn't carry some form of a free (as in freedom with
a lower case
"f") license. It doesn't have to be GPL 3 but I'll probably be
spending the summer in the GNU offices up in Boston and all of my
managing, specifying, hacking, etc. will be on free software only.
I've loads of reasons for this decision and I'm at a point in my
career where my clients pay me handsomely to work on free software so
I have the luxury of refusing to keep my work available to everyone.
I understand the price issues and think that a lot needs to be done in
that area. I've also seen people lose jobs because the AT couldn't
deliver the features needed to perform a job for which they had been
hired. Free software with a solid extensibility model is probably the
only way to solve both problems but the events that will make that
possible are well off in the future.
cdh
-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of James
Panes
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 9:02 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Seeking possible tasks for Dueling Operating Systems at
CSUN
There are few people that would argue against JAWS being king of the
hill when it comes to screen readers, however, cost must be a
consideration when deciding on what system to purchase. This is why
the shark has not eaten the
competition yet.
It is irrelevent to me if a screen reader is offered in Curdish, but I
care a whole lot if I can not perform basic tasks because a system
with AT is right out of my price range.
Regards,
Jim
jimpanes@xxxxxxxxx
jimpanes@xxxxxxxxxxxx
"Everything is easy when you know how."
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Hofstader" <chris.hofstader@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 8:43 AM
Subject: RE: Seeking possible tasks for Dueling Operating Systems at
CSUN
Price is only a valuable criteria if the AT serves the user with the
features he needs. Absolutely free hardware, software and electricity
in English only is of no value to one who only Speaks Tagalog.
-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of James
Panes
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 8:28 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Seeking possible tasks for Dueling Operating Systems at
CSUN
I think that an important part of the performance measure should be
the final cost of the configuration used for each system. This will
help to put Windows and Mac OS on a more equal footing. I honestly
believe, however, that UNIX will wipe the floor with both of them if
this is made one of the criteria.
Regards,
Jim
jimpanes@xxxxxxxxx
jimpanes@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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