Re: Java And Windows Executable Question
- From: "Jay Macarty" <jay.macarty2009@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 18:08:53 -0500
Jim,
Yes, Eclipse is written in java and does require a java runtime. What makes
Eclipse more accessible than some other java vbased applications is that the
core IDE is written using a GUI package called SWT instead of using java's own
swing component. The swt GUI package uses the native components of a given
platform. For example, in swt a button on a Windows machine is a regular
Windows button. Swing basically paints something that looks like a vutton and
provides properties and events to handle the actions. If everyone would switch
their apps over to swt, we'd probably have a much easier time with java
software access. However, a lot of the existing software simply uses the swing
GUI since it comes as part of the core java package. From a java perspective,
you certainly don't have to distribute the source in order for others to
execute your code. In fact, one of the early catch phrases of java was write
once, run anywhere.
----- Original Message -----
From: Homme, James
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 6:21 AM
Subject: RE: Java And Windows Executable Question
Hi,
Confessional.
OK. I really feel stupid sometimes, but who cares. In all the years I've been
programming, I have never understood why you need an interpreter and why you
can just use an executable program, and so on. I know all kinds of other stuff
like if you write Python programs, unless you use something like Iron Python
that it's hard to give someone a program without letting them have your source
code. I could be wrong about that one, though, because I remember something
about .pyc files or some sort of intermediate files that you can give someone.
I've never really cared much about how it works except when I think about the
possibility of distributing software to someone and not wanting them to get
source code. Not that I have any secret code lying around, but I sometimes
think about maybe writing something to sell to someone. When I think about
that, I start thinking things like "Don't do it in Perl or Python or Java,
because they can get the source code." Stuff like that. That kind of thinking
is all mixed up with my unwillingness to use C++ because I'd rather let the
machine do the garbage collection and whatever else it does, and I want to just
solve problems. I guess it comes from having my roots in Cobol. I don't really
care about this stuff on a deep, technical, level. I'm just curious from a
fifty-thousand foot level. For some reason, getting all cozy with the machine
stresses me out and makes me want to run screaming into the street looking for
chocolate.
End Confessional
Jim
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From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jay Macarty
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 7:06 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Java And Windows Executable Question
You might want to take a look at a package called Java Service wrapper. It
allows you to launch a java application as an executable or to even run it as a
Windows service. I have used it in both modes. One of the things I like about
the JSW is that you can configure it to trap the standard out and standard err
streams and write them to a file. You can even have JSW put a date/time stamp
on each console record. This is very helpful when attempting to track down a
problem which may have resulted from an unexpected runtime exception. Just
knowing the date/time stamp of exactly when the error occured can help you
better track down what was going on at the time.
----- Original Message -----
From: SDJNick
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 9:31 AM
Subject: RE: Java And Windows Executable Question
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From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Homme, James
Sent: 02 August 2010 4:22 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Java And Windows Executable Question
Hi,
I am very sure that I have a misunderstanding about this, so please correct
me. I was once under the impression that you couldn't make a Java program that
was an .exe Windows executable, but Eclipse is a Windows executable. How does
this work?
Thanks.
Jim
Jim Homme,
Usability Services,
Phone: 412-544-1810. Skype: jim.homme
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